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Well.......There is a time for everything, and IT IS TIME FOR JLEE

Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:31 pm
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:31 pm
Two things are admitted up front in evaluating JLee

1) He had an awful year as the starter in his freshman year. Pick-6's and an awful Defense both did him in.
2) He also struggled in his limited time in 2009, where he was trying to redeem himself behind a God-awful Offensive line with no running game support.

In addition, I would contend that he threw off his back feet far too many times, and the results showed that he did.

No one is arguing these things are not true.

So....He struggled in the tough SEC as a freshman and behind a terrible OLine as a Sophomore.

Now, why should he play at this juncture in 2010?

1) He has paid his dues and been relegated to backup for over a year.
2) As such, he has lots of observation time on the sideline.
3) He had the best Spring in 2010 by nearly every account
4) He was by far better in the Spring Game.
5) He had the better Fall camp by most accounts
6) He has a very fast release and a strong arm (not that JJ does not have a strong arm also, but JJ's release is very slow and winding). See the one-pass miracle to Randle last night
7) JJ is struggling by any reasonable account in 2010 and his growth is stunted and arguably he has regreesed.
8) JLee can stretch the field (now that we have good OLine pass protection) to set up the running attack.
9) We need him to get in a groove to make a run at the SEC, so now is the time.
10) The players/receivers are reported to want him at the helm (at least some, and maybe most)
11) He has the most upside of our current options.

Yes, his past is conceded as poor. Let's put that in the past. Had JJ shown meritable performance, things would have been different, but at this point there is no real evidence or rational to continue to run him out there.

JJ is a wonderful young man by all accounts. JJ will and should add to the LSU team as the year progresses. Even if JLee comes in and sets the world on fire, I'd like to see JJ come in and add to the team, because he can contribute. Watching from the sideline will give him some valuable perspective.

But there is a time for everything, and it is now time for Lee

Geaux JLee, Geaux JJ, Geaux Tigers!
This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5216 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:33 pm to
Difference is this is the year he was supposed to start playing anyways, not his redshirt freshman year when he was thrown into the fire.
Posted by Live2CTigersWin
Member since May 2010
1664 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:36 pm to



I agree. JJ vs. J. Lee = Regressing vs. Progressing
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5721 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:36 pm to
I suspect we'll need both by the end of the year. The SEC is tough on quarterbacks....nice to know we have 'options'.
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
16293 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:37 pm to
JJ or Lee, doesn't matter to me as long as they win. Might as well give Lee a try with what I've seen so far from JJ. Maybe there'll be an improvement, maybe not. Doesn't hurt to try. A lot of big games coming up and LSU needs to have the best man in for the job.

Posted by gayson
Member since Feb 2008
2102 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:48 pm to
sounds legit i guess?
quote:

9) We need him to get in a groove to make a run at the SEC, so now is the time.

even though that could be said for either JL or JJ lol. ive never seen JL in a groove also. plus i dont know if spring games are all that reliable. we will all put our faith in LES MILES to make the right decision now
Posted by cepheid
kenner, la
Member since Feb 2007
1638 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:54 pm to
one completion doesn't mean anything. But give him a hot late in a game and see what he can do. I don't want to throw the Moo state game seeing if J Lee has come around. Do you?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69208 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 5:07 pm to
I agree we need both qbs to make a run. We needed two in 07. MSU is a perfect game for him to come in. We know msu isnt going to be a push over so people cant say oh it was vandy. But they are also not sec champion material. And it's a home game. If he plays well he gets support from the fanbase and maybe just maybe his confidence will soar.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18550 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 5:08 pm to
bout damn time, but is miles that smart.
Posted by Tiger 1964
Tampa
Member since Mar 2007
163 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 6:07 pm to

great post. JL was thrown into the fire when not ready and is being judged on that performance...but remember he did win some games that year. JJ has been coddled for over a year and is not making ANY progress. Except for the pick-6's (which are bad) JL is heads above JJ. It's time for a change. Even hard headed Les seems to realize this based on his post game comments.
Posted by jhamil25
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
2482 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 7:19 pm to
Great post!


I would like to see both QB's this Saturday, then go with the hot hand.




Posted by cepheid
kenner, la
Member since Feb 2007
1638 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

therocketscientist


for once I couldn't agree with you more. Time to let JL get a little playing time against Moo State just to see how his game has progressed and to see if we can get improved play from the QB position. What could anyone have against that?
Posted by 1p56
Thats da admin who banned my avatar
Member since Aug 2010
1751 posts
Posted on 9/13/10 at 8:34 am to
People forget that Lee would have beaten UGA that year, pick 6 included, had he had ANY kind of a defense with him.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9605 posts
Posted on 9/13/10 at 9:32 am to
quote:

therocketscientist


great Post!!!
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 9/13/10 at 11:49 am to
A LOT of people have secretly been wanting to see J Lee well before this game...

now its OK to say it without fear of being called one of the various TD put downs.
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/13/10 at 12:20 pm to
You left out your favorite reason: he makes your favorite coach, Gary Crowton, look like the incompetent he is.
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