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re: I'm feeling guilty over this...
Posted on 5/30/10 at 10:32 am to Luke4LSU
Posted on 5/30/10 at 10:32 am to Luke4LSU
I live in Georgia. Peanut farmers here stand to make a lot of money if we used more biodiesel, for example.
It's not an either/or as several posters have implied on this thread. We DO need to CUT BACK on our oil consumptions, and not just for environmental reasons. We're giving a lot of money to dictatorships in this hemisphere (Venezuela) and elsewhere (the Middle East) because of our oil obsession here. The "drill baby, drill" crowd ignored the risks involved with drilling in our backyard. Sure, stronger regulation would have prevented this current spill, but the drill baby drill crowd are also opposed to regulating the oil industry. As it stands, the people who have been regulating the industry for the last couple of decades have been people FROM the industry. In other words, the inmates were running the asylum (kind of like Wall Street...). That's a recipe for disaster.
The OP has a great point about electric cars or using hybrids. Our major cities should also invest more in mass transit infrastructure development, particularly light rail (which uses electric power). But most importantly, WE AS AMERICANS NEED TO SHIFT OUR THINKING. Particularly in the South, people love their cars and trucks and shite. Take the train to work. Carpool. Try to live in a walking community or closer to the office. Fight against urban sprawl instead of embracing it. shite, do this for no reason other than to avoid sitting in traffic for an hour and a half each morning and afternoon. Your quality of life will improve, and you won't be funding dictators and terrorists to the extent that you are now. Energy independence is both a national security issue and a quality of life issue. We should all be behind it, regardless of party affiliation. Quit all the partisan bullshite and look at it objectively.
Which is better for you and everyone around you, burning more or burning less fossil fuels?
Which is better for you personally, spending more money per month on fuel costs or less?
Heck, ignore the rest of this post and just answer those two questions honestly. Let's drop all the partisan and reactionary nonsense and focus on the issues at hand. Using less oil is beneficial to us as a society, both now and for future generations. Let's work together on that instead finding ways to attack each other.
It's not an either/or as several posters have implied on this thread. We DO need to CUT BACK on our oil consumptions, and not just for environmental reasons. We're giving a lot of money to dictatorships in this hemisphere (Venezuela) and elsewhere (the Middle East) because of our oil obsession here. The "drill baby, drill" crowd ignored the risks involved with drilling in our backyard. Sure, stronger regulation would have prevented this current spill, but the drill baby drill crowd are also opposed to regulating the oil industry. As it stands, the people who have been regulating the industry for the last couple of decades have been people FROM the industry. In other words, the inmates were running the asylum (kind of like Wall Street...). That's a recipe for disaster.
The OP has a great point about electric cars or using hybrids. Our major cities should also invest more in mass transit infrastructure development, particularly light rail (which uses electric power). But most importantly, WE AS AMERICANS NEED TO SHIFT OUR THINKING. Particularly in the South, people love their cars and trucks and shite. Take the train to work. Carpool. Try to live in a walking community or closer to the office. Fight against urban sprawl instead of embracing it. shite, do this for no reason other than to avoid sitting in traffic for an hour and a half each morning and afternoon. Your quality of life will improve, and you won't be funding dictators and terrorists to the extent that you are now. Energy independence is both a national security issue and a quality of life issue. We should all be behind it, regardless of party affiliation. Quit all the partisan bullshite and look at it objectively.
Which is better for you and everyone around you, burning more or burning less fossil fuels?
Which is better for you personally, spending more money per month on fuel costs or less?
Heck, ignore the rest of this post and just answer those two questions honestly. Let's drop all the partisan and reactionary nonsense and focus on the issues at hand. Using less oil is beneficial to us as a society, both now and for future generations. Let's work together on that instead finding ways to attack each other.
Posted on 5/30/10 at 11:00 am to Sophandros
Ha...I'm no hippie.
I simply think anyone who uses gas bears some responsibility for this mess.
I simply think anyone who uses gas bears some responsibility for this mess.
Posted on 5/30/10 at 12:01 pm to Sophandros
Great post.
One of the reasons I hope President Obama uses his bully pulpit to encourage Americans to conserve. To be smarter with our driving habits. To buy more efficient vehicles.
Fortunately, I believe we can significantly reduce our consumption with little to no sacrifice to our lifestyle. There is a lot of waste in the system. Look around as you drive, how many huge vehicles contain just one person.
Lets put the power of our citizenry to work getting involved in a national effort. It's more than just saving money. It's a national security issue. If our military can die in the middle east, we can drive a smaller car, imv.
One of the reasons I hope President Obama uses his bully pulpit to encourage Americans to conserve. To be smarter with our driving habits. To buy more efficient vehicles.
Fortunately, I believe we can significantly reduce our consumption with little to no sacrifice to our lifestyle. There is a lot of waste in the system. Look around as you drive, how many huge vehicles contain just one person.
Lets put the power of our citizenry to work getting involved in a national effort. It's more than just saving money. It's a national security issue. If our military can die in the middle east, we can drive a smaller car, imv.
This post was edited on 5/30/10 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/30/10 at 12:16 pm to Sophandros
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Sophandros
paragraph 3 echos what I have been thinking for years.
i can't ever envision life 100% petroleum free, but to say plastics must be petroleum based isn't accurate.
until cold fusion is a reality, fission makes the most sense to me. but the potential for disaster is still there.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:52 pm to Sophandros
This is a great post, though I will add that environmental reasons are useful as well.
Even if you leave out hippy dippy reasons; I do like to fish, hunt sometimes, eat seafood, visit the beach, ride in boats..you know all that good stuff that's screwed up now.
Even if you leave out hippy dippy reasons; I do like to fish, hunt sometimes, eat seafood, visit the beach, ride in boats..you know all that good stuff that's screwed up now.
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