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I'm feeling guilty over this...

Posted on 5/30/10 at 8:42 am
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5399 posts
Posted on 5/30/10 at 8:42 am
I drive a Dodge Ram 1500 4x4...18 mpg on a good day. I also have a bass boat, pull behind camper, and ATV with trailer that bring the mileage down even more and need their own gasoline.

The love of oil and the reckless way it's used has created this need, and demand has caused these companies to go out and get it...obviously without any definite plans in place to stop leaks or perform cleanup.

I know everyone is pissed at BP, but we've all played a small role in this too.

Now I'm thinking about getting one of those electric Nissan Leaf cars when they come out in a couple of months. It's a good thing the Nashville are is putting in recharging stations.

Oil has caused us so many problems - wars, natural disasters, pollution - I'll just be glad when we're done with it.
This post was edited on 5/30/10 at 8:43 am
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 5/30/10 at 8:45 am to
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Now I'm thinking about getting one of those electric Nissan Leaf cars when they come out in a couple of months.


ever thought about riding on a 747 that was battery opperated?


while you are at it, you might as well throw everything in your possession that is made of plastic, rubber, pvc, ink, paint, and a host of other petroleum products.

matter of fact, if it's not glass or wood (unpainted), you can throw it.



fricking hippies.
they will never get it.

Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1731 posts
Posted on 5/30/10 at 9:11 am to
Man, there is no guilt necessary, there is another way. I write this post from Brazil....I work in the biofuels industry. Specifically, I work on the harvest side of things. 30 Years ago, Brazil decided to be energy independant and today, most of their fuel comes from ethanol from sugarcane, biodiesel from soybeans, and the oil that they need comes domestically offshore production.

I can guarantee you that we can do the same in the US. We need to forget about corn ethanol for a moment and look at other crops. We are doing this today. The technology for cellulosic ethanol is finally about where it needs to be. This technology is energy balance positive now and is certainly the way for us to go.

It just sucks that we most likely had to witness something like the Horizon disaster to kick us all into gear like Brazil did 30 years ago.

If you don't believe the resources are available in the US, Google the Billion Ton Study done by the USDA and DOE a few years ago.

And....by the way, Brazilians have Yamaha outboards and Honda dirtbikes that run just fine over here with lots of ethanol in them.
This post was edited on 5/30/10 at 9:17 am
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 5/30/10 at 11:24 am to
I live in a building here in the Warehouse District where at least 50% of the vehicles parked in the garage are large SUV's... I mean LARGE. It's pretty ridiculous, really... this is not a family building (kids need play space) and these people, mostly wives returning from Rouse's, take forever to maneuver their rolling land barges into tight parking spaces.

You know we have an excessive consumption problem when people can't even abandon ostentatious vehicles inside the city where it makes much more sense to have SmartCar-type transportation.

Posted by CougarBait
on catnip in a cougar's den
Member since Jun 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 5/30/10 at 12:56 pm to
I feel ya, bro. Putting gas in the lawn mower yesterday just got me depressed. Addicted to gasoline, nicotine, and a technicolor screen. Thinking about disconnecting from it all and buying a nice organic vineyard in chile or argentina. Contrary to what these enraged "anti-hippies" think, there is nothing wrong with wanting to shrink your footprint. Raise the next generation to be more responsible than the previous ones.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 5/30/10 at 5:57 pm to
we wont be done with oil
but we can cut back enough to not need to go to war over it.

Posted by Bussemer
Heading South
Member since Dec 2007
2524 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:18 am to
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I'll just be glad when we're done with it.


You'll be dead
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