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Pitching Rotation for the Weekend (per SECSports.com)
Posted on 4/29/10 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 4/29/10 at 7:42 pm
Looks like Matulis is throwing Saturday and Sunday.
lol does this mean Ott might see a start?
Weekend Rotation
lol does this mean Ott might see a start?
Weekend Rotation
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 7:45 pm
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Posted on 4/29/10 at 7:55 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
quote:"Or TBA"
Looks like Matulis is throwing Saturday and Sunday.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 7:59 pm to LSURussian
I know I just thought it was funny.
Well then who is TBA?
Well then who is TBA?
Posted on 4/29/10 at 8:03 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
To Be Announced
Posted on 4/29/10 at 8:08 pm to LSURussian
lets pitch ranaudo all 3 days
Posted on 4/29/10 at 8:53 pm to tigermike200444
quote:
lets pitch ranaudo all 3 days
shite, last Friday he coudn't pitch 3 innings
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:04 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
We should go:
Ott - Fri
Ranaudo - Sat
Matulis - Sun
I just thinks this makes sense in case Ott has to come into close for a rubber game and Ranaudo is going to win 4/5 Saturday games...maybe more. As for Fri, let Ott pitch no more than 7 and let Cotton/Ritner/someone with icewater in veins come in relief. I know many won't agree with my opinion, but this is where I come out -- final answer.
Ott - Fri
Ranaudo - Sat
Matulis - Sun
I just thinks this makes sense in case Ott has to come into close for a rubber game and Ranaudo is going to win 4/5 Saturday games...maybe more. As for Fri, let Ott pitch no more than 7 and let Cotton/Ritner/someone with icewater in veins come in relief. I know many won't agree with my opinion, but this is where I come out -- final answer.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:04 pm to CROWN N COKE
Rossetta threw out Alsup or Bradshaw.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:58 pm to LATIGERFAN
I wouldn't mind Alsup getting a shot, he hasnt been his usual self this year
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:23 pm to josh336
Yeah, I have to say, he was great against Ole Miss. It was the first time I saw him pitch this year. His movement on the ball was great, he kept it low and he hit the corners.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:31 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:
Ott - Fri
Ranaudo - Sat
Matulis - Sun
I just thinks this makes sense in case Ott has to come into close for a rubber game and Ranaudo is going to win 4/5 Saturday games...maybe more. As for Fri, let Ott pitch no more than 7 and let Cotton/Ritner/someone with icewater in veins come in relief. I know many won't agree with my opinion, but this is where I come out -- final answer.
You can't expect Ott to be able to pitch on Sunday after a full start on Fri w/o injury risk. I wouldn't mind seeing the reverse... using him if needed on Fri and Sat and then possibly give him the start Sun if and only if he didnt have to pitch much at all Fri and Sat
Posted on 4/29/10 at 11:40 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:
We should go:
Ott - Fri
Ranaudo - Sat
Matulis - Sun
I just thinks this makes sense in case Ott has to come into close for a rubber game and Ranaudo is going to win 4/5 Saturday games...maybe more. As for Fri, let Ott pitch no more than 7 and let Cotton/Ritner/someone with icewater in veins come in relief. I know many won't agree with my opinion, but this is where I come out -- final answer.
NO! do you expect a Ott to prepare for a start then yank him after about 100 pitches and expect him to close out another ballgame on one days rest? Could this work for one weekend in the regional if it were life and death? Of course, but this leads to wear and tear on a players elbow week in and week out. Sorry, but a dumb idea.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 11:57 pm to Adam4848
I forgot Adam that you were the only voice of LSU baseball.
I'm not even suggesting we use him in the closer's role AT ALL anymore. The Sunday idea is only a crutch for Matulis, who may not even need it. This is college and not a 25 man roster of MLB pro guys. Closers in college are not a necessity; they're a luxury. Rick Greene, Hunter Gomez, etc. have been there, but not every year.
What am I really saying? Put Ott into the starter's role ala Coleman last year. And we are in May now...if he has to throw 120 pitches a weekend, it won't kill him. Yes, Ben McDonald fricked his career up being overused. I saw him in College Station pitch in back to back games, hours apart. I then saw him get shelled by Miami and UT in Omaha. But, Ott is not relying on a 97 mph fastball...alas, I realize he's not a Bradford-type either. Bottom line...put your best pitchers in the rotation. We can score runs, but obviously our rotation with what we've been doing SUCKS. We need a new move and PM has to come up with the precise one. Can you imagine last year having LC come only in relief? That would have been dumb!
Ott is the 1st or 2nd best pitcher on the staff...period. We need him to adjust to a starter's role. Hell, let someone else try to close games, but if we get 10 runs per game like we did last weekend, we won't need a closer unless we do not have effective starting pitching. The Alsup suggestions, Ritner suggestions, etc. are each about as legit as mine and that's all mine is - a suggestion.
I'm not even suggesting we use him in the closer's role AT ALL anymore. The Sunday idea is only a crutch for Matulis, who may not even need it. This is college and not a 25 man roster of MLB pro guys. Closers in college are not a necessity; they're a luxury. Rick Greene, Hunter Gomez, etc. have been there, but not every year.
What am I really saying? Put Ott into the starter's role ala Coleman last year. And we are in May now...if he has to throw 120 pitches a weekend, it won't kill him. Yes, Ben McDonald fricked his career up being overused. I saw him in College Station pitch in back to back games, hours apart. I then saw him get shelled by Miami and UT in Omaha. But, Ott is not relying on a 97 mph fastball...alas, I realize he's not a Bradford-type either. Bottom line...put your best pitchers in the rotation. We can score runs, but obviously our rotation with what we've been doing SUCKS. We need a new move and PM has to come up with the precise one. Can you imagine last year having LC come only in relief? That would have been dumb!
Ott is the 1st or 2nd best pitcher on the staff...period. We need him to adjust to a starter's role. Hell, let someone else try to close games, but if we get 10 runs per game like we did last weekend, we won't need a closer unless we do not have effective starting pitching. The Alsup suggestions, Ritner suggestions, etc. are each about as legit as mine and that's all mine is - a suggestion.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 12:15 am
Posted on 4/30/10 at 12:03 am to PiscesTiger
Look at all the rp's who just sit in the damn dugout and spit seeds and wear their shades...last year in the SECt, people stepped up. We need that this year. Bradshaw,Mormon, Ritner, etc etc need to come prove they can pitch in crucial relief situations and I'd rather learn this NOW as opposed to a Saturday afternoon against a team like UCLA.
Yeah, if Chad Jones would have returned and grown into what we saw in Omaha each and every time out, we wouldn't be having this conversation - highly unlikely anyway.
My final word - Ott starts and relief only if he throws 80 pitches. The way he goes, often, is getting guys out on 3-4 pitches anyway. I can see him throwing 80-90 pitches through 7 innings. Every time? Nah...but like I said, it's May and we may need him to do this for a month. And I seriously doubt that he's not a starter next year anyway.
Yeah, if Chad Jones would have returned and grown into what we saw in Omaha each and every time out, we wouldn't be having this conversation - highly unlikely anyway.
My final word - Ott starts and relief only if he throws 80 pitches. The way he goes, often, is getting guys out on 3-4 pitches anyway. I can see him throwing 80-90 pitches through 7 innings. Every time? Nah...but like I said, it's May and we may need him to do this for a month. And I seriously doubt that he's not a starter next year anyway.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 12:08 am to PiscesTiger
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 12:10 am
Posted on 4/30/10 at 12:11 am to Adam4848
Adam, there's really no argument anymore. I am advocating that Ott be a starter. Used only on Sundays if he's available physically and had a short stint the previous Friday. If he's not...oh well. He needs to be a starter and I am just now a believer in this.
Many were on here opposing LC as a starter BIG TIME last season.
Many were on here opposing LC as a starter BIG TIME last season.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 12:15 am to Adam4848
quote:
this makes sense in case Ott has to come into close for a rubber game
quote:
I'm not even suggesting we use him in the closer's role AT ALL anymore.
Ok, my mistake...I uterally confused with your original quote, but I think I then understood your second once it was annouced.
However can we agree that starting Friday and relieving later in the week is much worse on the arm than the other way around which actually worked for Bradford and Coleman?
Posted on 4/30/10 at 12:18 am to Adam4848
My final point then I will shutup.
Ott starting on Friday's and people expecting him to pitch later that weekend AND expecting results from him = :beatdeadhorse:
Ott being used in relief Friday and starting Sunday if needed CAN work because of the full 3 days rest after.
Ott starting on Friday's and people expecting him to pitch later that weekend AND expecting results from him = :beatdeadhorse:
Ott being used in relief Friday and starting Sunday if needed CAN work because of the full 3 days rest after.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 12:23 am to Adam4848
Well, by my own admission, my thinking for using Ott as a closer on Sunday reflects my insecurity with relying on Matulis right now. The kid's got great stuff, but he's yet to prove on a consistent basis that he's reliable. Yes, he's getting better. The scary part is that with the rotation we have now, he's the 2nd best starter. 
and what if Ranaudo never returns back to his normal self? Then, Matulis (minus Ott as a starter in this whole equation) suddenly becomes the ace? That just scares me and I guess I want Matty to be there if absolutely necessary. I just believe that Friday would be his best chance JUST IN CASE. Let's say he throws 7 IP and 90 on Friday. I'd say he could do a Sunday inning with zero trouble. IF he does well Friday and I think 2/3 times he will.
Well, you could be right. I'm no trainer. I do think however, that Fri start and Sun one IP wouldn't be terrible...and yeah, I know he'll have a lead arm come Sunday. But I must just now stick to some type of solid reasoning and that is "to hell with Sunday...get the first 2 wins on Fri and Sat and see what happens." It's college baseball...gotta do what ya gotta and I agree with you that the formula would be better in the regionals when it's necessary.
I guess the other point I wanna stand solidly by is that we need a new closer and it doesn't mean we need someone to step into Ott' shoes...not possible in 2010. I think Ritner might be the guy with a setup from Ross or Bradshaw.
and what if Ranaudo never returns back to his normal self? Then, Matulis (minus Ott as a starter in this whole equation) suddenly becomes the ace? That just scares me and I guess I want Matty to be there if absolutely necessary. I just believe that Friday would be his best chance JUST IN CASE. Let's say he throws 7 IP and 90 on Friday. I'd say he could do a Sunday inning with zero trouble. IF he does well Friday and I think 2/3 times he will. quote:
However can we agree that starting Friday and relieving later in the week is much worse on the arm than the other way around which actually worked for Bradford and Coleman?
Well, you could be right. I'm no trainer. I do think however, that Fri start and Sun one IP wouldn't be terrible...and yeah, I know he'll have a lead arm come Sunday. But I must just now stick to some type of solid reasoning and that is "to hell with Sunday...get the first 2 wins on Fri and Sat and see what happens." It's college baseball...gotta do what ya gotta and I agree with you that the formula would be better in the regionals when it's necessary.
I guess the other point I wanna stand solidly by is that we need a new closer and it doesn't mean we need someone to step into Ott' shoes...not possible in 2010. I think Ritner might be the guy with a setup from Ross or Bradshaw.
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