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Pick Six - A Closer Look
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:38 pm
Let me start by saying I am not a Lee or Jefferson supporter because I think it is way too early to make that judgement. What I would like to discuss is pick 6's because it is usually the first arguement when comparing the two quarterbacks.
First, what makes a quarterback likely to throw pick 6's? I know it sounds ignorant, but is it more a quality of the quarterback, or the presence of bad luck?
Another way to look at it... Are there 3 types of quarterbacks: One that does not throw interceptions, One that does, and One that throws pick 6's.
OR
Are there only two types: One that throws interceptions, and one that doesn't. The third category (pick 6's)a quarterback who throws interceptions but is UNLUCKY in the position of the defender, the defender himself(fast or slow), and other factors such as offense's willingness to pursue an interception.
The reason I raise this question is that I believe Lee's problems of throwing pick 6's can more easily be corrected than problems in mechanics, understanding the playbook, etc. If Lee is just a quaterback who throws interceptions but has had BAD LUCK in the past in that a good number of them were returned for touchdowns, then I think fans would be more willing to accept giving him another chance.
The bottom line is that if some of Lee's pick 6's could have been avoided by players tackling better after interceptions, etc. than he would look like a much better option. (please understand that I'm not trying to say that the interceptions were not his fault, but i'm saying maybe Lee's pick 6 problem isn't as bad as it sounds, and any quarterback who throws an interception has a chance to throw a pick 6's if there is a little bad luck or other factors involved.
Can someone with a deeper understanding please elaborate?
First, what makes a quarterback likely to throw pick 6's? I know it sounds ignorant, but is it more a quality of the quarterback, or the presence of bad luck?
Another way to look at it... Are there 3 types of quarterbacks: One that does not throw interceptions, One that does, and One that throws pick 6's.
OR
Are there only two types: One that throws interceptions, and one that doesn't. The third category (pick 6's)a quarterback who throws interceptions but is UNLUCKY in the position of the defender, the defender himself(fast or slow), and other factors such as offense's willingness to pursue an interception.
The reason I raise this question is that I believe Lee's problems of throwing pick 6's can more easily be corrected than problems in mechanics, understanding the playbook, etc. If Lee is just a quaterback who throws interceptions but has had BAD LUCK in the past in that a good number of them were returned for touchdowns, then I think fans would be more willing to accept giving him another chance.
The bottom line is that if some of Lee's pick 6's could have been avoided by players tackling better after interceptions, etc. than he would look like a much better option. (please understand that I'm not trying to say that the interceptions were not his fault, but i'm saying maybe Lee's pick 6 problem isn't as bad as it sounds, and any quarterback who throws an interception has a chance to throw a pick 6's if there is a little bad luck or other factors involved.
Can someone with a deeper understanding please elaborate?
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:42 pm to TigerEggs
Yeah. If JLee is in at QB, then Craig Loston or PP7 should be playing 20 yards behind him...waiting
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:53 pm to TigerEggs
quote:
I believe Lee's problems of throwing pick 6's can more easily be corrected than problems in mechanics, understanding the playbook, etc.
Not sure if this is true, but I would say that not understanding the playbook could be easier to fix than no anticipation of defenders. Thats why the guy throws picks.
And for the record, im a "Lee Guy" so im not saying he is unsalvagable.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 2:53 pm to TigerEggs
I think you need to seperate the interceptions.
There are those that are from being slightly inaccurate, which usually result not in a open line to the endzone for the defender.
There are those that are bad luck, tipped balls, receiver not looking, pass rusher hit QB's arm, and such that usually don't become a TD.
And there are the ones where the QB stares down the receiver and allows the defender to jump the hell out of the route and have a full head of steam heading to the endzone.
Which ones did JLee throw?
FTR, I think Lee is salvageable also.
There are those that are from being slightly inaccurate, which usually result not in a open line to the endzone for the defender.
There are those that are bad luck, tipped balls, receiver not looking, pass rusher hit QB's arm, and such that usually don't become a TD.
And there are the ones where the QB stares down the receiver and allows the defender to jump the hell out of the route and have a full head of steam heading to the endzone.
Which ones did JLee throw?
FTR, I think Lee is salvageable also.
This post was edited on 3/30/10 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:03 pm to TigerEggs
look man, go ask for a name change ASAP
Posted on 3/30/10 at 8:46 pm to TigerEggs
im trying to remember all of the 2008 pick 's. forgive me if i am inaccurate. #1-2nd qtr at auburn. gabe mackenzie grabs a lateral pass with one hand and returns it right before half. a great pick but also i think lee took it for granted the route was open. didnt quite look it off. was thrown into the fire after hatch slobbered out his mouthpiece. draw? florida-brandon spikes steps in front. lee didnt look him off- on lee. 1st play against uga-d. gamble steps in front, goes untouched. cant remember if wr tried to make a play. 2nd-d. gamble returns it a hell of a long way w/shite tackling. bama-one returned and fumbled for touchback. bobbled up into the air by d. byrd. r. johnson returns other in middle of field and avoids every player 17 times. against tulane, wr slips leaving db alone to pick. some of this stepping on his dick. some of it coachable mistakes. he still had one hell of a frosh campaign while not playing a full season. if we needed to drive the field, i like his ability if coached up. p.s.-that winning td against auburn to lafell will always be one hell of a pass. may the best guy play.
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