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re: Miles/Payton

Posted on 2/9/10 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 1:23 pm to
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NO RATIONAL OBJECTIVE basis


What is your rational objective basis that Miles is a good coach that will be good for the program in the long run?

He has shown poor game management, questionable ability to spot character flaws in recruits, and not owning up to mistakes by throwing players under the bus.

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Right now, the programs are roughly on the same level.


That is just not true.

8-5 & 9-4 =/= 12-2 & 14-0


Posted by Trucker Hat
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 1:29 pm to
Les Miles is not like Sean Payton, yes Payton made a few gambles in the Super Bowl and Les has made a few in his career at LSU. That does not mean they have similar coaching styles in any way.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89703 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 1:33 pm to
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What is your rational objective basis that Miles is a good coach that will be good for the program in the long run?


Do I need to repeat them AGAIN? At the risk of having to do this in every thread on the Rant:

Consistently high recruiting classes (Objectively ranked by Scout/Rivals/ESPN)
-subjectively even graded highly by players who ultimately select other schools

BCS Championship (Objectively selected to play in game -sort of; Objectively won game against tOSU)

More wins faster than any coach in school history (Objectively; further objectively highest winning percentage, which levels him against coaches in the 10-12 game season eras.)

As for the long run, assuming he coaches in 2010, he's now the longest tenured coach since Mac, and, assuming he coaches at least 1 game in 2010, will be the 4th longest tenured coach in LSU history.

Winning lots of games (more than 10/year) over multiple seasons (5+) is at least an arguable basis to conclude he is good for the program over the long run.

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He has shown poor game management, questionable ability to spot character flaws in recruits, and not owning up to mistakes by throwing players under


Every, single, big league coach exhibits these characteristics at one time or another. Human beings are, by nature, imperfect.

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That is just not true.


We just have to disagree on this point.
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