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re: In defense of MIles
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:29 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:29 pm to TheHiddenFlask
yeah miles will prevail imo...i give him 2010 before i stop blaming only crowton 
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Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:43 pm to johnsec
LSU has some of the best talent in the country but the coaching is limited I can't sit here and quote stats to you but one thing is for sure next year will come and we will see.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:47 pm to tigerhack
No excuses in 2010. Just beat Alabama, Florida, and Nutt!
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:11 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:more excuses
Kids have to be recruited for their junior and senior year and Miles' first two classes did not fill the needs of the team and have the overall quality that 2007, 2008 and 2009 had. He also was forced to coach with what Saban had left him, whether or not they fit his philosophy.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:12 pm to tigerhack
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I've been reading peoples opinions on this site for a few years and I have found everyone has their own opinion about the way things should go. This site was designed for fans to voice their views. My opinion on how I see the team and coaches as well as what direction I would like to see them heading in is my opinion. I have never attacked anyone on this site because of their opinion. You unfortunatly have.You are a major PRICK . You keep teaching your english class and stand behind the keyboard where your safe.
I don't know if you have any recollection of why I laid into you, but for a refresher, here's the abortion of a post you made.
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miles has no excuse when he came to lsu. coaches across this country would have pissed on themselves to inheret a team like he got when he came here. many of those players are in the pros now.several didn't play for saban but they did practice under him and look at the team then. what you saw in the sec tourny will be what you see every year .miles will continue to get beat by bama every year and once in a while he will pull an upset over fla. but all in all he will be 2nd,3rd, or 4th in the west. i really see 4th next year if he stays and it won't be long before the dinardo , hallman days are back. bama looked like lsu when saban was here several years ago which made it hard to watch the game.mark it in the book the longer miles stays the worst we will get and the harder it will be to get lsu back in the mix.
That is easily the most terrible spelling/grammar/sentence structure I have ever seen. You didn't even correctly space it.
As far as content.
Mr. Hack, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:14 pm to LSUKAT
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This concept makes me even more scared. We have to wait 7 years to see his talent perform to the standards LSU has set. This theory make no sense to me........Miles isn't a good coach and can't even hire excellent top assistant talent either. Seems like he is scared to hire the top guns they make take over his job once we reveal he is an "Imposter" as a good SEC coach.
you say this like he's pulling a Dick Rod and dropping 2 win seasons. The guy has pulled down 10 win seasons 3 out of 4 years and has a national and an SEC championship.
It must be so horrible for us having to wait out him getting a full cycle under his belt.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:15 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Please put the flask down.. 
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:28 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Again why is my question being avoided, it is legit also. But alas I guess it is easier to answer nonsensical rantards than actual questions
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:01 pm to Geaux Shaggy
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Again why is my question being avoided
It wasn't being avoided. It's not like it was anything special and I didn't know it was addressed to me.
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it is legit also
By you saying this, it clearly makes it legit. Right.
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But alas I guess it is easier to answer nonsensical rantards than actual questions
I'll break it down real quick.
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In 3 years LSU has signed 48 kids rated 4 or 5* by rivals. Out of that 48, 14 are no longer on the team.
Interesting statistic. What three years are these? I'm betting the 2006 class is in there. This was part of the premise of my original post. The 2006 class was not his best job because he didn't have the full time to recruit the kids and he was still a "new" coach. He did not have the luxury of being able to pass on talented kids because of character issues, resulting in some high attrition.
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Florida by contrast has signed 56 and only 7 are no longer on the team.
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Bama is similar to Florida in the fact percentage wise they are lower attrition rate than LSU.
I don't know the number, but I call major horseshite on this. Saban has been squeezing kids out right and left at Bama, in order to fit in his new classes.
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In your opinion how does this show LSU can remain competitive with these 2 schools when currently Auburn/Arkansas/and even Ole Miss are recruiting better than previous years and in the East Georgia and Tennessee are right there.
It doesn't. I never said it did. I can make some random point and then ask you how it will show LSU will not remain competitive. Watch:
Over three years, Miles won 10 games in 100% of them. He also won the SEC Championship and a national championship. He also has won 100% of his bowl games. Bama, in the same time period has not won a national or an SEC championship, and lost to ULM.
How, in your opinion, does this show that Bama is going to stay competitive with LSU?
See.
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Seems the gap between Florida/Bama and LSU is widening while gap between LSU and rest is getting narrow.
Ohh yeah. That gap between UF, UA, and LSU is just GIANT. I don't know why we even walk on the field with them. The other teams are recruiting better and there's nothing we can do about it besides continue to pull down top 3,5 and 10 classes, which we have done. Are you suggesting that we sabotage the other schools?
This question was dumb. I knew it would be dumb from your accusations of me ignoring it. Now please wipe that confused look off of your face and don't ever call me out again.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:02 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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While I disagree with you. I can certainly respect your opinions. You have obviously put some thought into the situation. My only suggestion is that you remember that hindsight is 20/20.
Don't fret, the post had good points and substance, IMO.
To all the LSU haters and the Ranters convinced that there is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's an oncoming train, see if there is anything good and/or positive in every situation, crisis, etc. Just as anyone here can be too positive and certain about anything being great just 'cos they want it to be that way. Just a thought...
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:06 pm to johnsec
Miles is a good coach. He has his positives and his negatives. Right now they kinda equalize each other.
He hasn't damaged the program yet. Lets re-evaluate the program next year and see where it stands. Nothing can be done now. If Miles can surround himself with VERY competent coaches that can take up the slack in his personal abilities, then LSU can contend for the SEC.
He hasn't damaged the program yet. Lets re-evaluate the program next year and see where it stands. Nothing can be done now. If Miles can surround himself with VERY competent coaches that can take up the slack in his personal abilities, then LSU can contend for the SEC.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:08 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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TheHiddenFlask
Its the previous 3 recruiting seasons with number of stars coming from rivals. So all 3 of those recruiting classes were recruited by Saban/Miles/Meyer. In case math is bad, that is 07/08/09 classes.
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Ohh yeah. That gap between UF, UA, and LSU is just GIANT. I don't know why we even walk on the field with them. The other teams are recruiting better and there's nothing we can do about it besides continue to pull down top 3,5 and 10 classes, which we have done. Are you suggesting that we sabotage the other schools?
Actually the gap is getting larger based on the fact LSU is losing more of that highly ranked talent that the 2 schools that are currently ahead of them. Hmmmm Florida and Bama have already recruited more 4/5* than LSU in past 3 seasons and yet they have managed to keep more of that talent. Yes LSU is ahead still
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This question was dumb. I knew it would be dumb from your accusations of me ignoring it. Now please wipe that confused look off of your face and don't ever call me out again.
Actually it is not dumb, it is a legit question based on quality of players loss in comparisons to what some consider LSU's biggest rivals.
Calling you out? Really is that an internet threat? Are you really that pathetic?
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:11 pm to Geaux Shaggy
quote:No but your posts are
Are you really that pathetic?
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:13 pm to Cadello
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Cadello
Lots of internet hard asses on tonight
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:18 pm to Geaux Shaggy
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please wipe that confused look off of your face and don't ever call me out again.
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Calling you out?
Yeah, you know those two posts where you said I was afraid of answering your question?
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Really is that an internet threat? Are you really that pathetic?
You must really suck at threats if you think that starting the sentence with "please" is the way to go.
You might be intellectually advanced for the rant, but that just makes you the valedictorian of special ed. I'm not going to let this generally constructive thread turn into a pissing match, so I'll be ignoring you from now on, unless, of course, you want to ask a logical question that doesn't change directions midway and then gloat about how awesome you are.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:23 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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TheHiddenFlask
Here you go
LSU 49 4/5* and 14 no longer on team
Florida 46 4/5* and 7 no longer on team
Alabama 48 4/5* and 6 no longer on team
That encompasses 2007-2009 recruiting class, Here if you wanna double check and see that I am right Rivals
So those highly ranked recruiting classes, do not look as highly ranked once you take out the players that are no longer on the team.
Also, is reading an issue? When did I, as you so previously stated
quote:can you link where I said you were afraid?
Yeah, you know those two posts where you said I was afraid of answering your question?
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:38 pm to TheHiddenFlask
IMO, teams are as good as their QB. 99% of the time, this is the case. If the QB is mediocre, the team is mediocre. If the QB is good, the team is good. If he's great.....well, you get the idea.
This is why I haven't jumped ship yet. I disagree with some of the things he has done, but what can you do? Jefferson is still young. What? 2 days younger than Barkely? He's improved, sure, but you can't expect him to be great yet. People continue to say it's a developmental issue but I disagree. IMO, he's developed at about the same rate as most have in the history of the game.
He's gotten better as the season went on, which is a good sign. His numbers are decent. He's played a little above average this year and the team did too. Which proves my point in the first part of my post. The team this year was just above average.
This is why I haven't jumped ship yet. I disagree with some of the things he has done, but what can you do? Jefferson is still young. What? 2 days younger than Barkely? He's improved, sure, but you can't expect him to be great yet. People continue to say it's a developmental issue but I disagree. IMO, he's developed at about the same rate as most have in the history of the game.
He's gotten better as the season went on, which is a good sign. His numbers are decent. He's played a little above average this year and the team did too. Which proves my point in the first part of my post. The team this year was just above average.
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:44 pm to Prominentwon
Yeah, its been posted many times that Miles has another season or three to prove or disprove peoples faith in him as a coach.
Next year all excuses are gone. Les can prove he can win with his players, an experienced QB and his coaching staff with his players. Am I forgetting any?
Its all on him next year. No excuses. Off season will be long, hope LSU wins it all and Les proves all of us to be negatigers and not just worried fans.
Next year all excuses are gone. Les can prove he can win with his players, an experienced QB and his coaching staff with his players. Am I forgetting any?
Its all on him next year. No excuses. Off season will be long, hope LSU wins it all and Les proves all of us to be negatigers and not just worried fans.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:51 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Miles is a great recruiter, good coach and a fine human being. I am more than ok with him as our coach. I think he is very similiar to Bobby Bowden.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I give Les till end of 2011, next year seems like a trasitional year with the talent leaving, schedule, and possible coaching changes. LSU could finish 7-5 and 9-3 again it seems. 2011 with us barely losing anyone from previous year (Jones, Barksdale, Murphy, Nevis, TT, Helton, Hicks, Levingstone would be only seniors) we should make a run at SECCG.
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