re: Catastronauts

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I just don't think you can ignore the big picture

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In your scenario, the big picture is going from a 3-5 season to a 5-3 season (with a split between Ole Mess and Arky). Seems you are still trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

No kidding. These folks are constantly reframe the date to fit their narrative. Like, if you look at these few offensive rankings and this subset of games, that nullifies everything else Miles has accomplished.

People are watching the most successful run in LSU football history and calling for the coach's head.

Isn't psychosis defined as a loss of connection with reality and a perception of things that are not there?

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quote: Miles is 7-7 in his last 14 SEC games We started the year hearing bout the decline of LSU football as demontrated by the conference record of last year. Since we can't talk bout a decline any longer cause this years conference record will be better and the team is highly ranked 10 weeks into the season, the discussion now is shifted to include the last two years as a cause for concern. Good try, but no sale. If we gonna talk winning percentage for the last 2 years, lets talk winning percentage for his 4+ yrs which is the best in the history of LSU football.

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What's his record against good SEC teams the last 2-years? No one will disagree with the QB turnover and Malveto last year being a problem and Jefferson having little experience to start the year. The point many are making is that the same challenges that have been ongoing during games under Miles tenure are worse than ever this season and it is a coaching issue, not a player issue. If LSU goes 9-3 or 10-2 this season I say great. How the get/got there is a different story and where is a quality win in 2009? UGA stinks this year, it certainly isn't that game.

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11-2 would be great, and 10-3 wouldn't be bad at all. Another top 5 recruiting class and we start next year in the top 10 and in the conversation again. That picture looks good to me.

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You're right, that would be great. Will you be happy if we go 10-3 again next year and miss the SECCG and not win the West?

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We started the year hearing bout the decline of LSU football as demontrated by the conference record of last year. Since we can't talk bout a decline any longer cause this years conference record will be better and the team is highly ranked 10 weeks into the season, the discussion now is shifted to include the last two years as a cause for concern. Good try, but no sale.

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It's called moving the goal posts, and it's quite amazing how good at it CLM's detractors are.

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If the ranking in team offense has become the sole measure of a college football program, then permit me to introduce you to the Idaho Vandals and the Nevada Wolfpack. They rack it up. I'm sure it's entertaining and enjoyable but I can't say I've ever dialed them up on a network on Saturday night or watched them with 90,000 other people.

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Horrible, horrible analogy and an example of hyperbole to make a point. Those teams don't have top 5 talent, million dollar coaches, and NFL facilities. The point is that more often than not, LSU football should be BOTH entertaining, AND result in wins. It shouldn't be either entertaining and lots of losses, or not entertaining and lots of wins. That doesn't mean we are going to win every game, nor should we, but in the games that we do win there should be evidence of a solid, highly talented team that looks crisp and a coaching staff that appears prepared and involved in the game.

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Maybe slightly better record, but the team looks worse on offense this year, than last, and the offensive statistics are way down from last year.

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Winning ugly is a viable and proven strategy.

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Improving on defense, not on offense.

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Yes, LSU is definitely improving on offense as JJ improves.

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You just admitted that in the last two games, the trend is downward.

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No, I didn't. Don't project your misinterpretation as my intent. As JJ improves, the offense improves. JJ has been out since being hurt in the Bama game. That is no reflection on Miles. In addition, no trend is a straight line, particularly when starting a different QB.

Perhaps the coaches noticed that Shepard was a less than 50% passer in high school and that his rush attempts outnumbered his pass attempts by more than 2-to-1. He may throw from the wildcat sometime soon but he's far from ready to lead a top 10 team from the pocket, may never be. Kudos to the coaches for not throwing him to the dogs.

The Tech game was the perfect time to see what you really have in Jarrett Lee. I think they probably know the answer now that they've given him a thorough and fair shake against a beatable opponent. If a mistake was made with Lee, it was asking him to do too much too soon last year. Then again, after Scott bolted out of the gate, we were being dared to throw. Again, kudos to the coaches for not making the same mistake this year even though the opposing defenses have taken a similar approach. The payoff is that Jefferson is finally starting to make opponents pay for it.

College football fans need to have more than half a season's worth of patience. Go look up the records of the best coaches who have had decades of success at one program. You will see ups and downs, pretty and ugly, fortune and misfortune with championships mixed in and a sustained record of success.

As a graduate of LSU, I am proud of the way they play, the record of success, and the manner in which the whole program conducts itself. I wish I could say the same for the parts of the fan base that boo teenage student athletes off the field at Tiger Stadium.

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The horrible offensive showing against Tech is a DIRECT reflection on Miles and his coaches.

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Perhaps, or maybe having our starting QB, TB, Center, and TE not play had just a tad to do with it...ya think?