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100K in TS?
Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:01 pm
As many know almost every home game there is a "bald spot" in part of the student section (SS). It often goes unused because most of the students concentrate near the NW corner of the student section.
Now here's what's interesting about this. When I was student in the early-mid 80's, TS's official capacity was something like 77K. For the '83 UW game, we packed 83K+ in TS. Mostly due to unlimited seating in the SS, i.e., students only had to show their student ID and you were in.
After the UW game, the fire marshal required LSU to implement some attendance control measures so that the # of students allowed in the SS corresponded to the actual # of seats available in the SS. Basically, the same policy as is in place to this day.
But really what’s happened is the density of people in a part of the SS is every bit as dense as it was in ’83. So the problem hasn’t really been resolved it’s just not as large in scale as it used to be.
Questions:
1) Does anyone know what the Fire Marshal’s governing principle/concern is for this?
2) Is there any reason some sort of mitigation couldn’t be implemented. Something along the lines of having students attend an emergency evacuation class. This kind of thing is done in other arenas all the time.
We had 93K for the UF game. I think we could go over 100K if something like suggested above was put in place and the SS was “re-opened.”
Now here's what's interesting about this. When I was student in the early-mid 80's, TS's official capacity was something like 77K. For the '83 UW game, we packed 83K+ in TS. Mostly due to unlimited seating in the SS, i.e., students only had to show their student ID and you were in.
After the UW game, the fire marshal required LSU to implement some attendance control measures so that the # of students allowed in the SS corresponded to the actual # of seats available in the SS. Basically, the same policy as is in place to this day.
But really what’s happened is the density of people in a part of the SS is every bit as dense as it was in ’83. So the problem hasn’t really been resolved it’s just not as large in scale as it used to be.
Questions:
1) Does anyone know what the Fire Marshal’s governing principle/concern is for this?
2) Is there any reason some sort of mitigation couldn’t be implemented. Something along the lines of having students attend an emergency evacuation class. This kind of thing is done in other arenas all the time.
We had 93K for the UF game. I think we could go over 100K if something like suggested above was put in place and the SS was “re-opened.”
Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:02 pm to AlwysATgr
I don't think that there was a bald spot in the SS for the fla game...
Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:03 pm to AlwysATgr
that empty section is for the med students. they never show up unless its UF/bama. once the game starts the student section in that area spreads out and it looks full.
Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:13 pm to AlwysATgr
Wait a min, with this decade came the "freshman 15" thing so we may actually have less people since you guys may take up more space now!
Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:14 pm to AlwysATgr
Theres no way that they don't print more tickets for students than there are seats. For UF, they had people EVERYWHERE to where you almost couldn't move.
eta: There's no way it's possible to seat 100k in TS.
eta: There's no way it's possible to seat 100k in TS.
This post was edited on 10/25/09 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:18 pm to AlwysATgr
You honestly asked that question to this group?? JK
Happen to be in school 83-88 and remember exactly what you are talking about. That is when we first started having to pay extra $5/game for "reserved seats" and the "slot system" was installed by academic level.
I happen to know a little about the fire marshal requirements and it is simple as this - it is all about exits and exit capacity. NFPA 101 (Life Safety Code) is the governing document. You are not going to get special "exemptions" around occupancy requriements with the State. I have no doubt that we exceed the capacity requriements at any given big game because the number of people that "sneek" into the game without being accounted for are probably on the order of a thousand.
Happen to be in school 83-88 and remember exactly what you are talking about. That is when we first started having to pay extra $5/game for "reserved seats" and the "slot system" was installed by academic level.
I happen to know a little about the fire marshal requirements and it is simple as this - it is all about exits and exit capacity. NFPA 101 (Life Safety Code) is the governing document. You are not going to get special "exemptions" around occupancy requriements with the State. I have no doubt that we exceed the capacity requriements at any given big game because the number of people that "sneek" into the game without being accounted for are probably on the order of a thousand.
Posted on 10/25/09 at 11:59 pm to AlwysATgr
Regarding the bald spot in SS, yes it is for non-BR campuses, like New Orleans and Shreveport med school students.
But, we don't have to sit in that section (it is only reserved for us). We could basically sit anywhere in the SS we wanted. Given the opportunity to sit closer to the field with your other friends, where would you rather sit?
But, we don't have to sit in that section (it is only reserved for us). We could basically sit anywhere in the SS we wanted. Given the opportunity to sit closer to the field with your other friends, where would you rather sit?
Posted on 10/27/09 at 9:25 pm to AlwysATgr
A few years back (early 2000's), LSU oversold the student section and they had people sitting in the aisles all the way up to the scoreboard which was a definite safety hazard. There were numerous complaints from season ticket holders adjacent to the student section. LSU replied that they would not oversell again and they haven't to my knowledge.
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