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re: Who do you blame for RS not being "ready?"

Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:08 am to
Barkley was born ready. Barkley knows how to drop and has pocket presence. With Barkley, we would have had a shot to beat Florida. What does that say about JJ?
Posted by tygrman
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
173 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:14 am to
Ok
Ever occur to you that Barkley is on the field cause they have nobody else AND he just happens to have handled it very well under fire while our coaches have not had to throw RS in that situation so we don't know how he would respond. It could have nothing to do with how the coaches have gotten either of them ready, just different circumstances.
To try and put it a bit more simply, if JJ and JL sustained injuries and Miles was forced to play RS as a starter, he may perform as well or even better than Barkley. It's not a fair comparison.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:24 am to
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It's not a fair comparison.
ofcourse it is. Crowton still hasn't gotten his soph QB ready. The RS situation is all on his (and Miles') shoulders.
Posted by tad1015
Lafayette, LA
Member since Oct 2008
118 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:26 am to
i think the rs / matt barkley is a good comparison for this reason. i understand the argument that pete carrol was forced to play matt barkley and therefore he HAD to be ready, but the fact remains that rs is arguably the most talented player on our team and when you have someone with that kind of talent you find a way to get them in the game, even if they're a true freshman. no, we don't HAVE to play rs, but we also don't HAVE to play lafell, tolliver, charles scott, or any of the other studs we have on our team. it doesn't matter if he didn't start practicing until august, the coaches should still find a way to get him ready, even if it's for qb draws every single play.
Posted by ruger1776
McKinney, TX
Member since Dec 2008
1050 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:31 am to
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who watch Bill-O


I hate bill-o.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53894 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:31 am to
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I would bet he would be receiving a lot of snaps under those coaches. What say you rant?


I disagree. I think if he were a reciever or linebacker or something like that then maybe but not at QB. A D-1 offense is highly complex and not only does he have to learn the offense but he has to learn what every defense is going to do and it is different each weekend. It takes time to develop a QB. Just my opinion.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:36 am to
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What say you rant?

Blame is for small children, the clergy...and rantards who just don't get it. the only thing 'rediculous' in this conversation is your assumption that Shepard was ready to just step in and dominate. those other coaches you mentioned probably would have red-shirted Shepard.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:38 am to
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Barkley was born ready. Barkley knows how to drop and has pocket presence

Well, his 5 TDs to 3 INTs certainly back that up! One of the best ever!
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:41 am to
Put fown the crack pipe, Shep would not sniff the field at QB for UF Bama or USC. If I had to take a wild guess, Nutt might work him a lot out of the Wild Rebel but that's about it.

Anyone on here that thinks Shep had an excellent shot at being a solid SEC QB as a true frosh is nuts. Who should we blame if Shep is not a an all SEC Safety next year?
Posted by Chuck U Farley
The 318
Member since Oct 2007
8994 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:41 am to
In the Vandy game, which was the 2nd of the year. Shep went in at qb, ran for 8-9 got flipped. Next play he lines up at wide receiver and catches a pass. Has he forgotten these plays after the hits. Point is , if takes Les's word than he has forgot more plays this year than he has learned.
Posted by ruger1776
McKinney, TX
Member since Dec 2008
1050 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:42 am to
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Shepard was ready to just step in and dominate


Yeah, cause I said that. Shepard, like MILES said, should be getting 8-12 snaps a game and should be on the field a lot more, period. Funny how none of you answered if he would be on the field had Meyer, Saban or Carroll been the coaches.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14779 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:44 am to
A true freshman not ready to play in the SEC? How can this be?
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:00 am to
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Yeah, cause I said that.

you implied it dipstick.
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Funny how none of you answered if he would be on the field had Meyer, Saban or Carroll been the coaches.

ya know...your reading comprehension is really weak, I said those other coaches would have red-shirted Shepard. I'm sure Miles would have loved to have done that for Shepard...but then the delusional rantards like you would have had a meltdown cause Miles at 47-12 doesn't have a clue. do the world a favor and grow up.
Posted by gemlsu
Member since Sep 2003
2374 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:03 am to
Find him a position and let him play. What a unique idea that would be. How about a toss sweep to utilize his speed?
This post was edited on 10/22/09 at 11:04 am
Posted by lsuchamps11
Member since Oct 2009
257 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:09 am to
a true freshman can contribute in the SEC if you play to his strenghs and if he has proper coaching. Landry played a lot as a true freshman (didn't he start some games)
you guys always forget to mention Randle who should be catching passes instead of running wind sprints during the game.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27725 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:16 am to
The coaches. First Lee wasn't ready, then Jefferson was not ready and now Shep. All three of them are not dumb. We need to get rid of a coach and bring in a QB Coach. Get these guys ready to play. Crowton/Miles cannot do this obviously. RP didn't progress in 07 and Flynn had been here. Jimbo was here in 05 and 06, so I gotta blame Crowton. He has too much to do or just can't develop qb's, but he did develop Tim Rattay.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:17 am to
i blame you and other fans like you. miles said one of the problems is that they have worked him out at qb, rb and wr. for a true freshman to try to learn all three has gotta be tough. i think they bit off more than they can chew. i'm not sure anyone could grasp all 3 of those positions in such a short time. seems like our vision of how to use him was over ambitious and now looks like it was under ambitious.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93775 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:19 am to
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if you are the coach thenget them ready!! Bottom line



It's also the player's responsibility to be ready. who's to say he's not?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93775 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:19 am to
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RP didn't progress in 07


Posted by tygrman
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
173 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:21 am to
Forget it byubengalboy, common sense goes out the window when you are talking to bone heads who think RS was not borne to man but traveled to earth on an asteroid from the planet Krypton.
By the way idiots, superboy also fumbles the ball about every third time he touches it. How bout some more turnovers? That would help us win games!
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