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NFL MVP
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:13 pm
Who are the front runners in your mind?
I have Brees in the lead with a slight edge over Peyton and Favre.
I have Brees in the lead with a slight edge over Peyton and Favre.
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:14 pm to etow69
Kyle Orton duh
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:15 pm to etow69
peyton and brees
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:16 pm to BayouBengals03
Matt Cassell, think about it, if McDaniels doesn't ask about him, Cutler doesn't go to Chicago. Chicago and Denver seem to be better off since the deal. Has anyone else helped 2 teams he doesn't play for?
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:21 pm to tiger band trumpet
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Has anyone else helped 2 teams he doesn't play for?
Jarrett Lee against every defense he faced last season
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:22 pm to 1ranter1
Let me rephrase that question, has anyone helped two teams simultaneously that he doesn't play for?
I would also like to submit Gerrard Warren into consideration
I would also like to submit Gerrard Warren into consideration
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:22 pm to etow69
Favre right now. Without him they have 2-3 losses right now. If the season keeps going like this, Breesus.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:23 pm to JJ27
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Favre right now. Without him they have 2-3 losses right now.
You could say the same about Brees or Peyton or AD or most of the best players in the league.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:28 pm to 1ranter1
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You could say the same about Brees or Peyton or AD or most of the best players in the league.
Not really. You can make a blanket statement that their teams would suck without them. That's true of any super star. You can't say those guys stepped up and directly affected the game's outcome in crunch time. Favre's two throws against San Francisco and Baltimore were plays that won those games. What plays did Breesus, Peyton, or AD make this year at the end of a game to win said game? I can't think of any play for any of them. If you want to say the screen that went 80 yards for Peyton, ok...but not really.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:34 pm to JJ27
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What plays did Breesus, Peyton, or AD make this year at the end of a game to win said game?
Just because the game wasn't close at the end doesn't mean they would have won without them. Sub in Brunell for Brees and the Sainst might have 2 wins.
And AD is the most valuable player in Minnesota, not Brett Favre.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:35 pm to JJ27
quote:they didn't need to - they played well enough in the previous 3 quarters to where the game wasn't really in jeopardy.
What plays did Breesus, Peyton, or AD make this year at the end of a game to win said game?
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:35 pm to 1ranter1
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And AD is the most valuable player in Minnesota, not Brett Favre.
As evidenced by what he did with Tavares Jackson at QB...
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:36 pm to etow69
Peyton or Brees. If they're close, like has been the case so far this season, I'd imagine that Peyton winning last year would help Brees.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:37 pm to JJ27
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As evidenced by what he did with Tavares Jackson at QB
Seriously? He only led the NFL in rushing and Minnesota to the playoffs.
Take Favre off the team and they still make the playoffs. Take AD off and they don't.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:39 pm to 1ranter1
Samari Rolle
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:42 pm to Louie T
Brees 1400/13/2
Favre 1347/12/2
10 of Brees's touchdowns came in 2 games. He was MIA in Buffalo and against the Jets. Favre has had atleast one touchdown every week. He hasn't had any ridiculous games like Brees did against the Lions with 6 touchdowns, but it's fair to say that Favre has been more consistent than Brees this year. If you can't concede that, there's no point in discussing this any further. Taking off the black and gold glasses, it's very easy to give the nod to Favre so far. Like I said if Brees keeps this up I'd give it to him at the end.
Favre 1347/12/2
10 of Brees's touchdowns came in 2 games. He was MIA in Buffalo and against the Jets. Favre has had atleast one touchdown every week. He hasn't had any ridiculous games like Brees did against the Lions with 6 touchdowns, but it's fair to say that Favre has been more consistent than Brees this year. If you can't concede that, there's no point in discussing this any further. Taking off the black and gold glasses, it's very easy to give the nod to Favre so far. Like I said if Brees keeps this up I'd give it to him at the end.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:45 pm to JJ27
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taking off the black and gold glasses
It's not black and gold glasses, Brees is far more valuable to his team than Favre. Without him their offense is shite. Same for Peyton. Without Farve, Minnesota still has the best running game in football and still makes the playoffs.
Take off the ESPN glasses if you think Favre is more valuable than AD.
This post was edited on 10/21/09 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:45 pm to 1ranter1
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Take AD off and they don't.
Chester Taylor has averaged over 4 yards a carry for his career in Minnesota. The Vikings would be better with Favre/Taylor than Jackson/AD if they had to choose one or the other.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:45 pm to JJ27
quote:that's nice and all but
Brees 1400/13/2
Favre 1347/12/2
10 of Brees's touchdowns came in 2 games. He was MIA in Buffalo and against the Jets. Favre has had atleast one touchdown every week. He hasn't had any ridiculous games like Brees did against the Lions with 6 touchdowns, but it's fair to say that Favre has been more consistent than Brees this year. If you can't concede that, there's no point in discussing this any further. Taking off the black and gold glasses, it's very easy to give the nod to Favre so far. Like I said if Brees keeps this up I'd give it to him at the end.
favre has a MUCH better running game and better defense
Posted on 10/21/09 at 11:46 pm to JJ27
I'd love to see Favre get it just to spite Green Bay, and for the fact that he might be around another 5 years if he does. 
But I don't think he is going to be in the conversation at the end of the year.
But I don't think he is going to be in the conversation at the end of the year.
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