re: How far is Brees from the HOF?

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Why do you think considering whether a player ever won a championship is silly?

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because it requires 21 other players, not counting special teams, to win a super bowl. I have yet to see one man win any game in the NFL. this isn't tennis. I think it is extremely unfair to hold SB's as a necessary criterium to determine if a player is great or not. now I am not saying that it should not be considered at all, but it should be low on the list when deciding if a player is great and HOF worthy or not.

Payton Manning has won only one SB, but he has been the greatest QB the last 10 years. The reason they haven't won more than that is not due to his play, but rather due to a piss poor defense for most of his time in Indi. While he has played poorly at times, quite often it is due to his trying to make up for the defense's deficiencies.

Drew Brees has been unbelieveable the last 3 seasons for us, but does that make him any less of a QB for not winning a SB? Hell no! It's that he has not had a defense worth a damn these years, and it is necessary that every other player on a team contribute to the success of a team