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Whale Wars shenanigans and Discovery
Posted on 8/28/09 at 11:32 am
Posted on 8/28/09 at 11:32 am
Just had an epiphany about the 'accidental ramming' incident last week. We've been played by Discovery.
Facts
- His boat isn't as fast as the harpoon ships; admitted this over and over
- helicopter pilot took off knowing something was going to happen which would result in his helicopter being damanged or lost at sea
- Paul Wilson has a long history of ramming other ships
"Story" as told by Discovery animations and crew of Steve Irwin in 'sound bytes':
- going to try to cut between harpoon ship and main ship to 'cut the line' for the whale (see first 'fact' above)
- animation showed how this was supposed to happen
- animations obviously had to have been created long after the incident which happened in March and the footage was released by Australian feds
- crew 'interviews'? taken during the crisis..or filmed long after the incident.
Given all the evidence above, its clear to me dickwad captain never had any intention of severing teh whale line. Clearly the harpoon ship moves past him like he's standing still and gets into positino to transfer the whale so how the hell could he think he would be able to thread that needle?
The way his ship nudged into the harpoon ship (under almost full power) and his gleeful look as he rammed it..showed that was his only intention all along. There was no plan to sever the whale line.
The fact Discovery channel propoganda-generating machine went to work creating the illusion this was the plan and going so far as to create actual animations is disgraceful and takes manipulating people to a whole new level.
Facts
- His boat isn't as fast as the harpoon ships; admitted this over and over
- helicopter pilot took off knowing something was going to happen which would result in his helicopter being damanged or lost at sea
- Paul Wilson has a long history of ramming other ships
"Story" as told by Discovery animations and crew of Steve Irwin in 'sound bytes':
- going to try to cut between harpoon ship and main ship to 'cut the line' for the whale (see first 'fact' above)
- animation showed how this was supposed to happen
- animations obviously had to have been created long after the incident which happened in March and the footage was released by Australian feds
- crew 'interviews'? taken during the crisis..or filmed long after the incident.
Given all the evidence above, its clear to me dickwad captain never had any intention of severing teh whale line. Clearly the harpoon ship moves past him like he's standing still and gets into positino to transfer the whale so how the hell could he think he would be able to thread that needle?
The way his ship nudged into the harpoon ship (under almost full power) and his gleeful look as he rammed it..showed that was his only intention all along. There was no plan to sever the whale line.
The fact Discovery channel propoganda-generating machine went to work creating the illusion this was the plan and going so far as to create actual animations is disgraceful and takes manipulating people to a whole new level.
This post was edited on 8/28/09 at 11:59 am
Posted on 8/28/09 at 11:34 am to CAD703X
way too much time on your hands
Posted on 8/28/09 at 11:48 am to CAD703X
Severing the line is no more legal than ramming the whalers, but yeah, you only have to look at the goofy, delighted expression on his face to realize that ramming was the "plan" all along.
I think the whalers would be well within their rights to start shooting if the Sea Shepherd gets too close in the future.
I think the whalers would be well within their rights to start shooting if the Sea Shepherd gets too close in the future.
Posted on 8/28/09 at 1:40 pm to CAD703X
i, in no way, dispute what you're saying about the capt's final plan but i just want to point out a few things:
true, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the NM and the NM3 would be traveling at full speed diring the transfer (i'd assume they'd rather be stopped but that obviously wasn't going to happen)
uh, ya think? minutes earlier they came within feet of getting hit when they cut off the NM. that dude (in my opinion) is a paid employee and he didn't want to get hurt of get and he knew the potential of what could happen.
agreed
i think that discovery was only going with what they were told the plan was.
see above
again, this was a documentary and they were only telling the story. i don't think they were there to judge. and if they were, don't you think they would have shown the sea shepards in a better light than the idiots that they are?
these were obviously filmed after becuase they didn't prepare then stop and interview then proceed. and again, these people though at the time and still do think that they did the right thing.
again, i disagee with this... there's nothing that they did that made them look good in the situation. and again, i'm not saying that plan #1 in the capt's head wasn't "RAM"...
and one more thing... IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I CAN FIND A NISHIN MURU CREW SHIRT LET ME KNOW!!!!!!!!!
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His boat isn't as fast as the harpoon ships; admitted this over and over
true, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the NM and the NM3 would be traveling at full speed diring the transfer (i'd assume they'd rather be stopped but that obviously wasn't going to happen)
quote:
- helicopter pilot took off knowing something was going to happen which would result in his helicopter being damanged or lost at sea
uh, ya think? minutes earlier they came within feet of getting hit when they cut off the NM. that dude (in my opinion) is a paid employee and he didn't want to get hurt of get and he knew the potential of what could happen.
quote:
Paul Wilson has a long history of ramming other ships
agreed
quote:
- going to try to cut between harpoon ship and main ship to 'cut the line' for the whale (see first 'fact' above)
i think that discovery was only going with what they were told the plan was.
quote:
animation showed how this was supposed to happen
see above
quote:
- animations obviously had to have been created long after the incident which happened in March and the footage was released by Australian feds
again, this was a documentary and they were only telling the story. i don't think they were there to judge. and if they were, don't you think they would have shown the sea shepards in a better light than the idiots that they are?
quote:
- crew 'interviews'? taken during the crisis..or filmed long after the incident.
these were obviously filmed after becuase they didn't prepare then stop and interview then proceed. and again, these people though at the time and still do think that they did the right thing.
quote:
The fact Discovery channel propoganda-generating machine went to work creating the illusion this was the plan and going so far as to create actual animations is disgraceful and takes manipulating people to a whole new level.
again, i disagee with this... there's nothing that they did that made them look good in the situation. and again, i'm not saying that plan #1 in the capt's head wasn't "RAM"...
and one more thing... IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I CAN FIND A NISHIN MURU CREW SHIRT LET ME KNOW!!!!!!!!!
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