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re: Dale Murphy, HOF?? Should be!!!!

Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:36 am to
Rice was certainly a better slugger than Murphy or Dawson. But he couldn’t play defense at all and was a liability on the basepaths. Also, aside from one great season late in his career, he was effectively done as a top hitter at age 30. Albert Belle is the player people think Jim Rice is, and I don’t see people clamoring to put him in the Hall.

Murphy and Dawson are also centerfielders, and let’s be honest, that’s a different position than the corner OF slot. Offense isn’t quite as important because of the defensive responsibility. Relative to their position, Dawson and Murphy are better hitters.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73175 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:41 am to
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Relative to their position, Dawson and Murphy are better hitters.
exactly. Power at the corners, speed and defense up the middle. Murph did all of it. I'd like to see him in the hall. maybe the anti-roid backlash will help put him in one day.

I remember when Frenchie first came up a few years ago, they were comparing him to Murph and they did have some erie similarities
Posted by BigBoyTiger
Cleveland
Member since Aug 2005
9578 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:45 am to
Baloo,

Does my argument that Murphy was one of the best players of his era hold any weight. I mean, there weren't many better than him from 1980-1988. Those that were at that kind of a level are all in the Hall.
Posted by MStreetTiger
Dallas
Member since Dec 2007
12403 posts
Posted on 8/3/09 at 9:35 am to
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Rice was certainly a better slugger than Murphy or Dawson. But he couldn’t play defense at all and was a liability on the basepaths. Also, aside from one great season late in his career, he was effectively done as a top hitter at age 30. Albert Belle is the player people think Jim Rice is, and I don’t see people clamoring to put him in the Hall.

Murphy and Dawson are also centerfielders, and let’s be honest, that’s a different position than the corner OF slot. Offense isn’t quite as important because of the defensive responsibility. Relative to their position, Dawson and Murphy are better hitters.


Good stuff on the positional issues. I agree with most of what you have to say concerning them.

Let me be clear about my stance on all 3 players. I don't think any of the three belong in the HOF. I think all three are definitely borderline cases....cases falling just short of a (ok...to be fair...my) HOF standard.


This post was edited on 8/3/09 at 9:37 am
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