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re: Dale Murphy, HOF?? Should be!!!!
Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:36 am to MStreetTiger
Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:36 am to MStreetTiger
Rice was certainly a better slugger than Murphy or Dawson. But he couldn’t play defense at all and was a liability on the basepaths. Also, aside from one great season late in his career, he was effectively done as a top hitter at age 30. Albert Belle is the player people think Jim Rice is, and I don’t see people clamoring to put him in the Hall.
Murphy and Dawson are also centerfielders, and let’s be honest, that’s a different position than the corner OF slot. Offense isn’t quite as important because of the defensive responsibility. Relative to their position, Dawson and Murphy are better hitters.
Murphy and Dawson are also centerfielders, and let’s be honest, that’s a different position than the corner OF slot. Offense isn’t quite as important because of the defensive responsibility. Relative to their position, Dawson and Murphy are better hitters.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:41 am to Baloo
quote:exactly. Power at the corners, speed and defense up the middle. Murph did all of it. I'd like to see him in the hall. maybe the anti-roid backlash will help put him in one day.
Relative to their position, Dawson and Murphy are better hitters.
I remember when Frenchie first came up a few years ago, they were comparing him to Murph and they did have some erie similarities
Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:45 am to Baloo
Baloo,
Does my argument that Murphy was one of the best players of his era hold any weight. I mean, there weren't many better than him from 1980-1988. Those that were at that kind of a level are all in the Hall.
Does my argument that Murphy was one of the best players of his era hold any weight. I mean, there weren't many better than him from 1980-1988. Those that were at that kind of a level are all in the Hall.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 9:35 am to Baloo
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Rice was certainly a better slugger than Murphy or Dawson. But he couldn’t play defense at all and was a liability on the basepaths. Also, aside from one great season late in his career, he was effectively done as a top hitter at age 30. Albert Belle is the player people think Jim Rice is, and I don’t see people clamoring to put him in the Hall.
Murphy and Dawson are also centerfielders, and let’s be honest, that’s a different position than the corner OF slot. Offense isn’t quite as important because of the defensive responsibility. Relative to their position, Dawson and Murphy are better hitters.
Good stuff on the positional issues. I agree with most of what you have to say concerning them.
Let me be clear about my stance on all 3 players. I don't think any of the three belong in the HOF. I think all three are definitely borderline cases....cases falling just short of a (ok...to be fair...my) HOF standard.
This post was edited on 8/3/09 at 9:37 am
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