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re: Dale Murphy, HOF?? Should be!!!!

Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:13 am to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:13 am to
What does Dave Kingman have to do with this? He is nowhere near similar to either of Murphy or Dawson, and not as good. Then again, I brought up Raines, who I believe was better than both. And Rice, who is in the Hall now, who I believe is inferior to both.

Look, Dawson’s OBP is terrible. He’s a player that, philosophically, you are never going to convince me of his value because he is the exact kind of player I believe to be grossly overrated: someone who doesn’t walk but has some power and can keep a good BA. But he was an out machine. The basic job of a hitter is to not make outs. Dawson failed at the most basic level of a hitter. He did a lot of other things well, which made him a valuable player, but in my opinion, he’ll never overcome that terrible OBP. I can’t look past it. It’s too huge of a negative.

I don’t think most BBWAA voters care. Dawson won’t get in or not get in based on his OBP. But, if we’re talking my opinion, I would never vote for a guy who couldn’t get on base at a decent clip. Murphy could. Raines was even better (I think Raines’ greatness is completely forgotten, and it’s a shame – same with Whittaker and Trammell while we’re on the subject).
Posted by MStreetTiger
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/3/09 at 8:20 am to
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And Rice, who is in the Hall now, who I believe is inferior to both.


I have to disagree with you here. Just to compare with Murphy, Rice was superior in BA, OBP, SLG (BA and SLG by significant margins.

Rice was in top 5 of MVP voting 6 times (1 win). Murphy in top 5 twice (both wins).

We can argue "comparable" especially when you bring defense into the picture...but "inferior"? I don't think so.
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