re: Nola

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I'm not interested in having an inane discussion on the details of OBP, even though I disagree with your point.

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Of course you are. You've been doing it for two pages. I even told you explicitly going in it was an esoteric argument and you plowed right ahead. For you to say you aren't interested in this argument is patently false. You've been arguing it for quite some time and even when you say you don't care, you say you disagree. Showing that, well, you do care.

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My interest is in your assertion that because OBP is calculated the way it is, it inflates Nola's value relative to the other players on the team. I disagree with that.

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Try this thought experiement. Take two players. You know nothing about their hitting stats except two things:
1) They both have relatively the same number of at bats
2) Player A has 6 sac hits. Player B has 0 sac hits.

Now, knowing nothing else. Who's the better hitter? Anyone who has watched baseball for more than a year knows the answer to this question and will be right 95% of the time.

There's a reason the pitcher always bunts. Laying down a bunt for an out is not a positive. It's an out.

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However, the above is duly noted and will be used to evaluate your other baseball opinions moving forward.

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Note that you can't answer the question, Because it involves thinking aboout the game in a different way and challenging received wisdom. What is the difference between the ball being bobbled by the second baseman or hitting it to where the fielder was supposed to be but wasn't? In fact, you know it intuitively. Hence a lot of the pro-Nola arguments which talk about his "hard hit" balls.

That goes to hitting luck. A player doesn't have much control whether the batted ball becomes a hit or an out (except homers). You've already made the first step in your earlier arguments, you just haven't realized it yet. Or sat around and thought about the implications of the statement.