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re: Here is what I learned about JL today

Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by hotrod
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:25 pm to


hang in there TOJO.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:27 pm to
it's actually pretty sad and pathetic.
Posted by Jaketigger
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:32 pm to
No agenda. I just do not understand how blind people are on here. LSU averaged more points this past year than the previous. HOWEVER, we could not run the ball - meaning we were forced into throwing way more than we should have. The second reason was the obvious - LACK of defense. Everyone will agree those 2 are the most important components for winning championships. I am watching the '03 replays. That team was so solid on D and could run. They won games. They also had a 24 y/o QB - not a 19 y/o.
My point is Crowton needed to earn his pay. He should not have put the pressure on JL within their own 20 yard line like Gary Daniels said the minute before JL threw that pick.
Again, there is no agenda - keep the pressure off of the QB and run the football consistently. That is as simple as I can state it.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:39 pm to
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What if I do its not any of your affair


oh ok, so you admit that you have built a shrine to worship a 19 year old male?

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you racist


check yo self

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you must kiss JJs butt every night.


go to bed you sad little man.
Posted by King Joey
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:44 pm to
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Our DL put us behind in almost every game
Our DL? Really? I thought our DL was pretty good most of the time. To me it seemed that it was our secondary and LBs in pass coverage that were the bigger problems.

Posted by LA007
Monroe
Member since Nov 2008
1778 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:46 pm to
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it's actually pretty sad and pathetic.


Apparently, if you step on the field at LSU, you will have apologists and diehard fans no matter what you do on the field.

I know that there are many other more deserving candidates for sympathy than Lee, whose careers have come and gone.

He's still on the team with every much of a "chance" as anyone else to have the dream job of QB at LSU.

Boy, I really feel sorry for the guy. I can't understand why so many people defend his play no matter what.... he had his chance and he has and will have numerous other chances. If he's the competitor with the great mechanics and arm that they say he has.... why the bitching?

Nevermind, it's rhetorical.


Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:46 pm to
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Here is what I learned about JL today
Well the film study sounds logical b/c JL couldn't read any defensive set on any down. This was evident that if you watched JL last year you would notice that he was pretty effective when he his primary receiver was open, but he struggled and almost paniced when he was forced to look at his second receiver, or God forbid his third receiver. So his arse better be learning how to read defenses and study film or he will be playing at some multi-directional school in 2010

JL MAY start the season at #2, BUT will p1ay more than the others. LM felt "pressure" and forced himself to play JJ. Let's keep in mind the truth. The GENIUS OC Crowton was no better than AZZWIPE on CBS ANALYST CALLING the plays before they happened in ALL of those game! A change of pace would be more like it. JL WAS THE THIRD RATED QB GOING INTO LAST SPRING BEFORE THE RP CRAP! JR struggled during his tenure at LSU from lack of film study. GO look at Nicko's trust in his playing time. As most people would say, if the 2nd QB was better than the first, he would be playing. The injury situation to Hatch hurt him more than anything. Get real, JJ will NOT be able to run the ball if LSU Can't RUN the football. LAST YEAR WE SUCKED! That start's with Herman Johnson. He Sucked at Run Blocking. He won't sniff the field in the NFL unless he improves his footwork. We have to be able to run the rock. it is that simple. When Arkansas figured that out, they ate JJ up. He played about 3/4's total time that would win in the SEC last year. That is it. The SEC defenses will eat his lunch if he doesn't learn to read. just ask JL.





Good Lord, this post is all over the place.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:48 pm to
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Good Lord, this post is all over the place.




i'm not sure what to make of that post
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:49 pm to
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i'm not sure what to make of that post


here's what I make of it..."just when you think you've read it all on the rant..."
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:51 pm to

Good Lord, this post is all over the place.
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Carl - what part of the post you disagree with. 1. LSU SUCKED ON D.
2. Couldn't RUN block
3. Gary Daniels "Called" shots like Babe Ruth.

Either Daniels is a genius or he must have had the coaching for dummies book in the annoucers booth. See "Waterboy".
Posted by King Joey
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Member since Mar 2004
12507 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:52 pm to
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I can't understand why so many people defend his play
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he had his chance and he has and will have numerous other chances.
According to Doc, you just "defended" his play. Any suggestion that Lee has a chance to start is defending his play, and makes you stupid, irrational, probably racist, and absolutely clueless about football.

This is the problem with the Lee/Jefferson debate. Too few people will just flat out say that both of them have a realistic chance at winning the starting job and leave it at that. Too many people have to act like they are "cooler" because they "know" who will be the starter 6 months from now.

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:54 pm to
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According to Doc, you just "defended" his play. Any suggestion that Lee has a chance to start is defending his play, and makes you stupid, irrational, probably racist, and absolutely clueless about football.


Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:55 pm to
This is the problem with the Lee/Jefferson debate. Too few people will just flat out say that both of them have a realistic chance at winning the starting job and leave it at that. Too many people have to act like they are "cooler" because they "know" who will be the starter 6 months from now.

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ALL HAIL THE KING! YOU ARE ABOSOLUTELY SPOT ON!
Posted by watigerdz
Blaine, Wa
Member since Nov 2006
1108 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:56 pm to
I consider this post as starting to make personal attack on a LSU tiger player would is still a tiger come on get over this personal attack.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:56 pm to
Les Miles is pretty convinced Jordan Jefferson is going to be the 1st string QB fwiw.
Posted by LA007
Monroe
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 11:16 pm to
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According to Doc, you just "defended" his play. Any suggestion that Lee has a chance to start is defending his play, and makes you stupid, irrational, probably racist, and absolutely clueless about football.

This is the problem with the Lee/Jefferson debate. Too few people will just flat out say that both of them have a realistic chance at winning the starting job and leave it at that. Too many people have to act like they are "cooler" because they "know" who will be the starter 6 months from now.


I think you make good points about various topics. But, I think you're biased about the Jefferson/Lee debate. It's not a criticism... and I'm not trying to be condescending or pejorative.

The play on the field is what matters. The ability to lead the team is what matters. As QB, making the right decisions and not placing your team in a bad situation is what matters.

I might be "biased" because I didn't see some of Lee's best performances (like Troy, for instance), but I saw most.

You might be right in calling into question abject criticism or personal attacks on the player... but I really haven't seen that from Doc. From others, yes.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12507 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 11:37 pm to
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But, I think you're biased about the Jefferson/Lee debate.
Really? I mean, obviously it's possible. But I don't really think I'm any more biased for Jefferson than I am for Lee. I think they both have a lot of ability and both have realistic chances to win the job. I just think the odds favor Jefferson at the moment.

Posted by Hold my Tiger
Metairie
Member since Feb 2009
10 posts
Posted on 3/15/09 at 2:13 am to
Strong-armed quarterback who is in a position to be a starter in 2008 ... Redshirted as a true freshman in 2007 ... Had an impressive spring and goes into fall camp in a battle with Andrew Hatch for the starting job ... Smart player who makes good decisions. - Taken from lsusports.net... They obviously haven't updated some bios in a while
Posted by Mmorsey
Member since Jan 2008
605 posts
Posted on 3/15/09 at 2:46 am to
GEAUX LEE Jorden haddn't even proove he can threaux da ball. JJ should geaux to the bench.
Just becuse he threaux in da peach beaux dont meen he aint suppose to geaux back to da bench since lee aint hurt no more. Go tigas Jordin just another perilue
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 3/15/09 at 7:43 am to
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GEAUX LEE Jorden haddn't even proove he can threaux da ball. JJ should geaux to the bench. Just becuse he threaux in da peach beaux dont meen he aint suppose to geaux back to da bench since lee aint hurt no more. Go tigas Jordin just another perilue


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