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re: "Mark To Make Believe"

Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:55 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:55 am to
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they were allowed to have level 3 assets and mark them to a model. They SHOULD have been marking them to market every day and posting collateral as necessary.

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What Does Level 3 Assets Mean? Assets whose fair value cannot be determined by using observable measures, such as market prices or models. Level 3 assets are typically very illiquid, and fair values can only be calculated using estimates or risk-adjusted value ranges.


Maybe I'm just tired from jet-lag, but I think you're talking in circles, Colonel. It's like you're saying, "They should be marking them to market because they can't mark them to market because they are Level 3 assets which means they are assets whose fair value cannot be determined by using observable measures, such as market prices or models."

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they'd have been forced to sell their shite paper before things really got bad.

Again, circular logic: if they all were forced to sell at the same time, then that in itself would result in things getting really bad.
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 7:59 am
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:22 am to
The level 3 'assets' are not going to be worth a flip unless the consumer model returns, if it returns. If they sit on that crap we are all Japanese.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:32 am to
I understand what the idea behind a level 3 asset is, and I'm saying it's bullshite. There's always a market somewhere. And if there's really not a market, then that thing you own is worth zero. It's really that simple.
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