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re: 56% of GOP voters want govt to pay more in monthly SS benefits/medicare

Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:15 am to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18149 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:15 am to
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No he isn't.

Yes, he is.

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Why are you lying? This is how people know you have lost the point.

I’m hardly lying.

On a message board, you are what you post. You post like a big government RINO.

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You are working under the impression that people have not paid in. They have, it's their money. And that ends it.

This is funny.

You don’t think some welfare recipients pay something in the way of taxes? So because some do, does it magically make the benefits they receive not entitlements?

You have bought the big government line about social security, which is consistent with you being a big government RINO.

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have already proven that people living longer is a BS argument. I posted per 100K the deaths of people that have paid in for 25 years plus and never collected a dime of that because the died before retirement.

I don’t know what you’re talking about here but because it’s you that posted it, I’m confident it makes little sense as it relates to the debate about how to fix social security.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73213 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:19 am to
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You're a populist because you don't want to screw over the average worker for "principles." They claim to be small government, true conservatives, but they support taking away earned benefits that were originally taken in taxes. These people are literally supporting the government stealing your money in taxes with no return and then trying to claim you support big government.


I remember when y'all tried to pretend the CARES Act was OK because you were "getting some of your money back."
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
2062 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:59 am to
Hey a-hole MICHIGAN PUNK / TROLL’

SSI isn’t an entitlement you prick! It’s a Ponzi scheme set up by the same assholes you support and fawn over, the same evil pricks that will dispose of you once they no longer need useless pawns like yourself!

Entitlement is a welfare queen
An illegal alien
And so forth.

SSI is a FORCED TAX that gives returns that are laughable versus what a taxpayer could otherwise do with their own damn money.

Post less you dummy!!!!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124361 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:10 am to
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And it was funded by tax payer dollars that equaled 50 million.
She received $22.54/month for 35 yrs. That's the equivalent of $176,463.00 in total, in today's money, over her 100yr lifetime.

It should be no surprise that if recipients live to 100yrs old, they actually get a reasonable ROI on their SS contributions.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 1:11 am
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
73 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:17 am to
Then why haven’t you? How much do you think you’ve paid in to social security? I’ve been responsible and I won’t need it. You know bootstraps.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124361 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:20 am to
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Easy fix. Just stop the cap on SS income deductions
Ooooh boy

First off, asrepayment falls more or less IAW contributions, your proposal would mean you'd simply be due a bigger monthly check when you drew SS. Second, you're not going to make up a 23% deficit that way, even if SS was converted into a straight redistributional welfare system as you seem to propose.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124361 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:25 am to
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SSI isn’t an entitlement you prick! It’s a Ponzi scheme set up by the same assholes you support and fawn over, the same evil pricks that will dispose of you once they no longer need useless pawns like yourself!

Entitlement is a welfare queen
An illegal alien
And so forth.

SSI is a FORCED TAX that gives returns that are laughable versus what a taxpayer could otherwise do with their own damn money.
Then why haven’t you? How much do you think you’ve paid in to social security?
Care to clarify; your post doesn't seem to be respondent to his.
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
73 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:25 am to
Removing the cap fixes social security for the foreseeable future.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124361 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:26 am to
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Removing the cap fixes social security for the foreseeable future.
Who told you that?
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
176 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:30 am to
Ok so stop sending billions of dollars to foreign countries and paying for a bunch of ungrateful thirdworlders who have no intention of assimilating. Then you will have the funds. AMERICA FIRST. Democrats with TDS really need to understand what it truly means instead of listening to people who lie to you and toy with your emotions.
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
73 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:32 am to
It’ll extend the life of social security benefits until your gone and maybe me and only raise taxes on people that make above roughly 170k next year.
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
73 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:35 am to
I love this idea but the world is a fricked up place and it’s my opinion if we don’t do stuff there then they’ll eventually do it here. You know like George Bush said.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57447 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:40 am to
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It’s case dependent on whether it’s a retur/refund of taxes or an entitlement


When can I expect a refund of my income and capital gains taxes? I’ve paid in a hell of a lot more than FICA.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
176 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:41 am to
I agree with that statement. @Frostynips. Only problem is that the terrorists are already here. Hell, today the FBI warned that Pro-Palestians are planning on targeting a Pride Parade. Is that going to be our October surprise?
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
73 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:42 am to
Jesus who knows I’m sure sure I even care anymore. We lose when we try and we lose when we don’t try.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57447 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:44 am to
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To me an entitlement is free money (see welfare, SSI for kids who are “crazy”, Medicaid) in that they didn’t pay into the fund disbursing the benefits.
By this “logic” the government owes me a road. Where do I call to claim it?

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Any person not a moron would understand this. Unfortunately, Taxing Authority is a moron.
At least I’m smart enough to know when the government has taken my money.

You stil think the government still has “your money” sitting around in a vault somewhere. But yeah, I’m the moron.




Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57447 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:47 am to
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Well if you pay into them for a long working career then they aren’t entitlements.
Why don’t I get a refund of my income taxes? I’ve paid into them my entire working career. And a hell of a lot more than I’ve paid into SS? Where’s my money!!!
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 1:48 am
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
73 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:47 am to
Wait a minute there are roads everywhere are you saying you don’t use them or is this a terrible example.
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
73 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:48 am to
But you do get benefits for your taxes right?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57447 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:49 am to
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Wait a minute there are roads everywhere are you saying you don’t use them or is this a terrible example.
No. I want a road on the ranch I just bought. SS is for personal expenses refunded from taxes paid in. Why can’t I get a new road I’m owed?
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