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Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted by TexasForever81
Member since Mar 2023
241 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:03 pm
I’m curious about those who know pretty passionately about the Vietnam riots when they were at their peak.

How would it have been with social media added in?

With the exception of Kent State:

How much worse were the protests then compared to the current protests? more extreme than UCLA /Columbia and by how much?

Was there a seemingly obvious side to choose, or was it more evenly divided?

Was it mostly carryover from the civil rights act and possibly the assassinations?

I just don’t know a lot about the sixties and seventies other than the huge points. But am interested in looking at a real documentary that I could watch without much bullshite and options added.

Feel free to just mention the documentary if you don’t want to answer all those questions, please.

Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14488 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:50 pm to
I guess the best way to characterize the social upheaval of the 60's is to say it was a natural, or organic response to legitimate racial oppression and a really fricked up war. Also, it was all domestic, it was American. They were protesting American issues, not foreign.

And it wasn't long after that this country realized the so called "commie" protesters were right on both counts.

Now my mother was in College at Vassar at the time and I asked her during the Floyd riots which was worse. The riots and upheaval of her time or now. She said now is far worse than what was going on in the 60's.

All this bullshite we're currently witnessing is an odd mix of real, undefined fear over the power of the Jewish state and ginned up, manufactured fake outrage. It's hard to tease out what's real from what's fake but I've got concerns over Israeli/Jewish influence in global and American policy as well. The Left is just doing a really poor job of articulating it.

It's as if they want to hide their fear of Jewish power in the lie of Palestinian oppression. If they would just come out and say Look, American Right. We here on the Left are concerned about all this Jewish shite stirring as well. Then maybe we all could find some common ground here.

If Israel has its way and it looks like they will. Then we'll be balls deep in another Middle Eastern corporate war. Consider the possibility there are aspects of these protests we can all get behind.

And no, I'm not antisemitic, but I am distrustful of the origins of all this as well as Israel's motives.

This post was edited on 5/4/24 at 8:08 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56520 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:17 pm to
Jerry Rubin and the SDS started fights with the police, the guard and instigated not only that incident but Chicago and many others. He admitted as much years later.

Making the freest country in the history of the world seem like an oppressive police state to stoned boomers is one of the great retardation moments in human history.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5654 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

I’m curious about those who know pretty passionately about the Vietnam riots when they were at their peak.


My sister in law was at Kent State when the shootings took place and, years later, I was in the courtroom during one of the federal civil trials - person was shot and paralyzed.

My observations are that the blm riots were worse because the authorities allowed it to escalate

Honestly, I cannot fathom the on campus riots today basically calling for the extermination of the Jewish race. They cannot comprehend the nazi parallels
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7130 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 6:59 am to
They were protesting their peers being sent off to Vietnam to be slaughtered via a draft. Say what you want but that is at least something semi worthy of a protest. Compare it to the idiots today that don’t have a clue what or who they are actually protesting. I think history is proving the Vietnam War protesters right we had no business being over there. Eisenhower warned us of all of this and nobody listened and the MIC doesn’t care because they want the money the grift brings.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13302 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 10:06 am to
"Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming."

Neil Young led people to believe that Nixon called in the NG. Not true.
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