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re: Paging the board free speech absolutists...
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:12 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:12 pm to Bunk Moreland
There is a vast difference between genuine antiwar protests which seek to end conflict, and the abominable agenda of those who use the rhetoric of peace to justify their support for organizations with violent aims.
During the Vietnam War, college students protested against the military draft and the war, they did not claim to be the Viet Cong, call for more attacks against the South Vietnamese or call for the eradication of South Vietnamese.
Today's protesters are far different from peaceful individuals calling for an end to violence, instead they claim to be part of a vicious terrorist organization that is determined to escalate violence and perpetrate genocide on the Israeli people.
These protests are not deescalating violence and tension, but contrary to the facade they hide behind, they increase animosity, fear, and the threat of more violence.
During the Vietnam War, college students protested against the military draft and the war, they did not claim to be the Viet Cong, call for more attacks against the South Vietnamese or call for the eradication of South Vietnamese.
Today's protesters are far different from peaceful individuals calling for an end to violence, instead they claim to be part of a vicious terrorist organization that is determined to escalate violence and perpetrate genocide on the Israeli people.
These protests are not deescalating violence and tension, but contrary to the facade they hide behind, they increase animosity, fear, and the threat of more violence.
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:14 pm to GRTiger
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It's extremely relevant if the goal is to align public perception with reality.
I thought this thread was about the limits of the right to protest.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:15 pm to Bunk Moreland
I love it. Can Biden go out and tell people to stop protesting like Trump? Nope. He’ll look weak.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:16 pm to UtahCajun
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You do realize that Federal buildings are property of the people. Trespassing is not a consideration. We have the right to enter.
No, you don’t.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:20 pm to Indefatigable
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can you visually identify Jews?
To these ignorant terrorist sympathizers who shout "we are Hamas" and "kill the Jews," I'm pretty sure everyone who isn't Hamas or who doesn't want to kill the Jews is Jew enough for them to identify a "threat."
It's not like they only block Jewish drivers when they "peacefully protest" on highways. BLM morons blocked plenty of blacks and progressive white knights during their reign of terror. We don't hear too much about that org since it was revealed they were frauds and grifters. Same will happen here once we get our fill of the distraction.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
The limits on your right to interfere on private property are too absolute to be an interesting discussion. The schools could stop it right now if sentiment was near unanimous to that end. Enter public perception and the reality of what this is. That's the meat of this thing.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:22 pm to GRTiger
I get it. I always just get a kick of out the Jewish angle.
Not just over this subject either, for all things. I’ve never looked at a person not in Jewish religious attire and thought “that person is a Jew”.
Was just curious if others somehow had that ability.
Not just over this subject either, for all things. I’ve never looked at a person not in Jewish religious attire and thought “that person is a Jew”.
Was just curious if others somehow had that ability.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What did forcing entry into the Capitol have to do with free speech?
You mean the ones that had the door held open and given the grand tour> this was of course after being waved in through the opened fencing?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:32 pm to NytroBud
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You mean the ones that had the door held open and given the grand tour> this was of course after being waved in through the opened fencing?
Was this before or after the violence trying to force entry in opposition to LEO?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:33 pm to Bunk Moreland
They aren’t protests…when people are paid, its not a protest…
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What did forcing entry into the Capitol have to do with free speech?
Nothing.
That's why most did not force entry into the capitol but instead were welcomed in by capitol police. The capitol police even gave them tours.
The rich white hamas brats were NOT given permission by anyone with authority.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:36 pm to Indefatigable
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I get it. I always just get a kick of out the Jewish angle.
Not just over this subject either, for all things. I’ve never looked at a person not in Jewish religious attire and thought “that person is a Jew”.
Was just curious if others somehow had that ability.
If they wanna come out there all looking like an obvious Jew, that’s on them. They got a duty to mitigate.
I jest, I jest.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:38 pm to Jack Carter
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Nothing.
That's why most did not force entry into the capitol but instead were welcomed in by capitol police. The capitol police even gave them tours.
they were let in
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
I mean he said most.
Most people there didn't go in the capital at all
Most people there didn't go in the capital at all
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:41 pm to GRTiger
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It's extremely relevant if the goal is to align public perception with reality.
Bingo. The premise is that these are "very organic and totally spontaneous" demonstrations by "very serious and completely altruistic college students who just want the 'genocide' in Gaza to stop".
The fact is that the paid agitators are the same who took to the streets during the BLM nonsense that occurred during the George Floyd Memorial Hunger Games. It's ANTIFA, in most cases. They're just wearing different costumes.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:42 pm to Bunk Moreland
Citizens may say what they want.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:10 pm to Bunk Moreland
Are you admitting DJT is still in office?
But more seriously: setting up tent cities in the middle of campuses is not protected speech.
But more seriously: setting up tent cities in the middle of campuses is not protected speech.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
I see exactly 1 person entering the building among the desperate copy/paste images you posted from a Google image search.
The vast majority of them were allowed in by capitol police.
I'll ask you one last time: what authority figure on campus welcomed these rich white students to occupy and block access to various parts of campus like the capitol police did to the Jan 6 Patriots?
The vast majority of them were allowed in by capitol police.
I'll ask you one last time: what authority figure on campus welcomed these rich white students to occupy and block access to various parts of campus like the capitol police did to the Jan 6 Patriots?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:14 pm to Jack Carter
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I'll ask you one last time: what authority figure on campus welcomed these rich white students to occupy and block access to various parts of campus like the capitol police did to the Jan 6 Patriots?
There is no "like". Even the idiot Paletine protestors didn't use violence to (possibly illegally) occupy their space.
Being permitting into the Capitol following violence doesn't make it legal. That's like saying a person who is robbed donated the property
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I think protesting is stupid but it shouldn't be cracked down on unless they're interfering with another's property/person, etc.
They’re blocking traffic and forming illegal encampments.
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