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re: In a sense, this has been a great scenario for us.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:44 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:44 am to Fun Bunch
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Its gotten so F'ing bad, the national ridicule is so strong, and fans are so apathetic, that Griffin basically has to act. And not just act, but act fairly big. OKC started a rebuild around when you did, went all in on actually rebuilding, and lapped the ever living frick out of you.
Anything remotely approaching status quo simply will not work.
Griffin/Benson's hands are forced.
I made a thread saying the same. Imagine if we'd have lost to the kings and missed the playoffs. Griff would blame it on BI and Zion's injuries and would run it back. This embarrassment shoves the actual reality right in Griff's face
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:47 am to Balsamic_duck
I agree changes need to be made but comparisons to OKC and Minnesota are going to be frustrating. With better coaching *and health* the Pels can hang with anyone. Both OKC and Minnesota have been healthy this year.
Anthony Edwards hasn't really been injured yet in his career. Gobert is also generally healthy but played in most games since 18-19. KAT played in second most games since 18-19. Even NAW, while only a role player, played in all 82.
Shai played the second most games since his rookie year. Chet played in every game. Jalen Williams played in 71. Dort played in 79.
Even Denver was healthy. 7 of top 8 played in at least 63 games.
Most of the teams below those 3 in standings had injuriesand/or rested guys.
But things were going pretty well for Pels despite limitations of role players (Trey and Jose both missed 25+) until BI and Zion had overlapping injuries (accepting here that BI is not near 100).
I'm beat a dead horse here again and again on health, but even the Pels know how important it was by making Aaron Nelson a splash hire. But it hasn't worked, whether that's on the trainers or players or both, it's just not worked.
But the answer isn't to run it back and hope tge Pels are finally healthy. Pels have to realize it's not reasonable to expect the guys we have to be healthy enough to go anywhere in the playoffs. Rarely is a team going to give "face value" for injury prone guys unless taking back a different kind of problem, so the realistic question when moving guys is how much of a discount do you take?
Anthony Edwards hasn't really been injured yet in his career. Gobert is also generally healthy but played in most games since 18-19. KAT played in second most games since 18-19. Even NAW, while only a role player, played in all 82.
Shai played the second most games since his rookie year. Chet played in every game. Jalen Williams played in 71. Dort played in 79.
Even Denver was healthy. 7 of top 8 played in at least 63 games.
Most of the teams below those 3 in standings had injuriesand/or rested guys.
But things were going pretty well for Pels despite limitations of role players (Trey and Jose both missed 25+) until BI and Zion had overlapping injuries (accepting here that BI is not near 100).
I'm beat a dead horse here again and again on health, but even the Pels know how important it was by making Aaron Nelson a splash hire. But it hasn't worked, whether that's on the trainers or players or both, it's just not worked.
But the answer isn't to run it back and hope tge Pels are finally healthy. Pels have to realize it's not reasonable to expect the guys we have to be healthy enough to go anywhere in the playoffs. Rarely is a team going to give "face value" for injury prone guys unless taking back a different kind of problem, so the realistic question when moving guys is how much of a discount do you take?
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