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re: What amazes me about the abortion issue....

Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:38 pm to

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the life of me or my loved ones is NOT objectively more valuable then the life of someone trying to kill me or them or even rape my wife or daughter?


Do you believe humans possess innate value? If you do, then you understand that, objectively, no life is worth more than another. Do I personally value the lives of my kids more than the lives of virtually anyone else? Of course. That doesn’t mean anyone else does or that their lives objectively possess more worth than anyone else’s.

Someone doing a bad thing doesn’t erase their human dignity. It isn’t measurable. Humans all have it or we don’t.

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I still have no right to kill them because... who am I to say that I am more worthy of living than they are? That... is your position?
Correct. Thou shalt not kill doesn’t have any fine print.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73216 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:07 pm to
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Do you believe humans possess innate value? If you do, then you understand that, objectively, no life is worth more than another. Do I personally value the lives of my kids more than the lives of virtually anyone else? Of course. That doesn’t mean anyone else does or that their lives objectively possess more worth than anyone else’s.

Someone doing a bad thing doesn’t erase their human dignity. It isn’t measurable. Humans all have it or we don’t.


Neo-Kantianism is fun in a classroom. Just wait until next semester.

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Thou shalt not kill doesn’t have any fine print.


Of course it does. I'd also steer clear of relying on a translation error to support your argument.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3722 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:12 pm to
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Thou shalt not kill doesn’t have any fine print.


Except that it's actually Thou Shalt Not Murder.
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