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re: Uh oh...everyone's favorite "pro gay" Pope just shite in the punchbowl

Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:50 pm to
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As a Catholic, it is hard to accept the proclamations of a Pope who


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Yet here he is telling a family that the very act of bringing a child into this world via surrogacy is a sin.


So would you prefer he add to his silence on these "Catholics" by rejecting fundamental Church teaching (in other words, Truth) on God's plan for the ordered creation of life? He should just say surrogacy is fine? IVF is ok? Genetic engineering is permissible?

Wishing for a public rebuke of famous pro-aborts is sane and logical.

You, by making yourself your own Magisterium, (you appear to support surrogacy "the act of bringing a child into the world") are trying to justify a disordered view by contrasting the false righteousness of your position with the Pope's silence on another.

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:19 pm to
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Wishing for a public rebuke of famous pro-aborts is sane and logical.


It should be expected from the church leader. He didn't hold his tongue when criticizing Trump for wanting to build a wall when he lives behind a wall in the Vatican.

He also said we have a MORAL obligation to take the CV19 vaccine.

So he can step into the political arena to rebuke one President, but not the other? Over the right to life of a child no less from a pol who claims to be Catholic.

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He should just say surrogacy is fine?
Is this for profit? Or as an act to bring another family a baby?

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IVF is ok?
Maybe, I don't know. I've never thought about the moral implications of people wanting to have children as a moral question.

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Genetic engineering is permissible?
????

I'm struggling with the messaging about shaming families while he just sanctioned Priests blessing gay marriages. If a man and a woman can't have surrogates or use IVF to have more children, how can gay marriage be ok in the church?

Mind you, I'm still salty over the church covering up abuses by priests. Church leadership put the value of the church above the lives of abused children. It is hard for me to accept what is righteous and what is not from the Vatican after that.
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