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re: Uh oh...everyone's favorite "pro gay" Pope just shite in the punchbowl
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:24 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:24 pm to Freauxzen
quote:So it would all be OK if the surrogate didn't take a dime?
It devalues life to that of a transaction
My wife and I are catholic and went through IVF to have our son. Does that make him a "constructed" person?
No, more like a miracle. He's a human being with exactly the same dignity and right to live as you. We didn't construct anything, just gave nature a little help. And we made sure no embryos were destroyed. All were give the same chance at life.
As a result of that pregnancy, which my wife carried, her condition subsided and we were able to have our daughter naturally - another miracle.
I can not see how that can be placed on the same moral level as abortion or the self mutilation of gender transforming therapy/surgery.
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:46 pm to LSUnKaty
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So it would all be OK if the surrogate didn't take a dime?
My wife and I are catholic and went through IVF to have our son. Does that make him a "constructed" person?
No, more like a miracle. He's a human being with exactly the same dignity and right to live as you. We didn't construct anything, just gave nature a little help. And we made sure no embryos were destroyed. All were give the same chance at life.
As a result of that pregnancy, which my wife carried, her condition subsided and we were able to have our daughter naturally - another miracle.
I can not see how that can be placed on the same moral level as abortion or the self mutilation of gender transforming therapy/surgery.
It's an incredibly delicate subject, unfortunately. Two things: You're too close to this to have this discussion, emotional landmines won't lead to good ends
Second, the simple thing is that the ends don't justify the means, and Catholic teaching aligns with that.
ETA: And it isn't on the same "moral level," but it is in the same wheelhouse of an approach to life that creates a lot of dissonance.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 2:17 pm
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