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re: Man stabs a group of young people as they assault him for looking for his phone in river

Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16549 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 pm to
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I don’t see his right hand.


That's his right thumb under the chin. Do you think he has a freakishly long left ring finger?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 pm to
Two fingered choke? Ok.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116320 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:05 pm to
Is there a reason why you are all referring to a screencap that is a tiny moment in time and won’t give the actual moment this “choke” takes place?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:06 pm to
I see now. I thought it was just a blur from the screen grab.

He did have his right hand around the neck.

Mea culpa
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83574 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

I hope the guy gets off, to be honest, but this one is really borderline.
This is where I am.

No way this is morally cut and dry as some are saying. Legally I have no idea.
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
589 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:07 pm to
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116320 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:09 pm to
Nah.

I just want to see the choke and I can’t find it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116320 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:13 pm to
I found the “choke” but had to play it half speed.

It happens after he’s already stabbed someone (so it’s irrelevant to his self defense claim), and it stretches the definition of a choke to its limits, at best.

But alright.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16549 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

It happens after he’s already stabbed someone (so it’s irrelevant to his self defense claim), and it stretches the definition of a choke to its limits, at best.

But alright.


No, it's not irrelevant.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:04 pm to
you don't see the guys right thumb running along side his beard?

Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4594 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Also that would work against the theory of self defense under the law


You’re fricking retarded.

quote:

Can you perhaps tell me when the choke happens?


No, it’s been shown multiple times.

Again. You are fricking retarded.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
Ron Don Volante's PlayPen
Member since Jul 2011
6718 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:15 pm to
This guy is either retarded or a troll. Best to ignore
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:19 pm to
and FTR, I don't think the guy will get off completely. but after watching just about everyone from the group of highschoolers and the Carlson group having been caught in untruthful testimony and watching the video, a reasonable person would believe a guy being choked, hit, and a guy trying to push his head under water could be in fear of his life or great bodily harm.

I thought the judge appeared to favor the kids. The police were obviously biased.

If there is a civil trial, I think the Carlson group is at least 50% responsible. The high school kids about 35% and maybe 15% Mui.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

This guy is either retarded or a troll. Best to ignore


Fun Bunch is a broken man due to some political beliefs. He recently had a complete mental breakdown and posted on X for the world to see.

He has not been thinking rationally for nearly 8 years.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53629 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Fun Bunch is a broken man due to some political beliefs. He recently had a complete mental breakdown and posted on X for the world to see. He has not been thinking rationally for nearly 8 years.


Thanks for the heads up Reb, now it all makes sense
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:45 pm to
good to see you 'neck. hope the family is doing well.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 5:18 am to
Matt Walsh gives a pretty good recap of the trail here.

YouTube Daily Wire

He gives a few examples, but just about all of the testifying witnesses got caught lying on the stand. At this point, the judge should give a directed verdict in my opinion.

I still believe the jury will convict on a lessor charge because of Mui's behavior after the attack.

The guy filming is the one most responsible for the escalation followed by the two white trash brothers and their disemboweled friend.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9498 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:29 am to
Rarely have I seen both sides so bad on the stand. Mui did himself no favors with lying afterwards and not remembering all his BS interviews.

The saddest is the young people. The also could have just walked away. The black dude wanting to video and call a guy names for sport is a POS and got his friend killed.
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
479 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:46 am to
Miu’s testimony on cross was a bad look for him. He remembered his feelings perfectly every step of the incident when giving his defense testimony but played the don’t remember game when crossed.

Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
479 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:45 am to
quote:

A St. Croix County jury has convicted Nicolae Miu of first degree reckless homicide for fatally stabbing 17-year-old Isaac Schuman during a 2022 confrontation at the Apple River in western Wisconsin that turned violent.



LINK

Also convicted of 4 counts reckless endangerment
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 11:48 am
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