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Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Bongo
Member since Aug 2020
148 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:18 am to
This is a know your audience situation and you’ve missed the mark. Men (particularly many on this board), are tired of people(women) telling us what it is to be a man or a strong man or whatever it is you think we should be. For years, we’ve been told how masculinity is toxic. Now it seems that a dash of old school masculinity is what society needs and may not be so toxic after all. Please, stop telling us what you think we should be and just leave us alone.
Posted by thecoconuttiger
Member since Mar 2024
185 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:37 am to
Of course you are right. I thought i being a woman could introduce the subject and that men would share stories of the men who influenced them and made them the successful men they are today. Oh, I see how the media and a deteriorating society has left it's mark. Sad. You are exactly right about old school masculinity is what society needs look at Rome and how the effeminate males gained a foot hold and the masculine barbarians brought it down. Humans are part of nature. In nature the males who tend to the effeminate are exterminated by the dominate masculines. yep I agree with you 100 percent.

Sad that you can't recognize women who are really on your side.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
55167 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Strong men just are. A very Zen comment for sure.


I think you would be applying Taoism here. I think verse 80 about the strength yet humble nature of water as a guide to spiritual awareness.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79277 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:44 am to
You notice how quickly she pivoted there, lol? It's interesting how even women who profess to " love" men still believe "Strong" men have to agree with their opinions and be in their service, isn't it? And if they reject that premise they are now magically "weak" and " beaten down by the queers and nazi feminists" or 378 other fem-centric negative labels. With a simple peck on a keypad they can magically erase all the ruthless masculine strengths of the warrior class for instance, The old "agree with me or you aren't a strong man" argument.

She needs to read the Sigma male stuff again. She doesn't seem to even understand her own argument. But then, she's a woman, and let's face it boys, we don't really have any real expectations that a woman will ever consider life beyond her own narrow and self-interested solipsistic purview. It is, in the end, about how we can serve them. Serving our own interests, as they do every day all day, is weak you see.

What men say to other men "Do the right thing, man".
What women say to other women "You do what's right for you, girl".
Therein lies the crux.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97788 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:55 am to
And the anchor
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79277 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:58 am to
Because she was trolling. The troll gets the anchor. Sorry I wasted the time.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
97788 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:08 am to
Shitty subject line/can’t follow directions
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by marigny
land of dreamy dreams
Member since May 2023
91 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:31 am to
Humbly offered: A mature woman— or let’s say this woman— does not consider a doormat kind of man to be a good man.

In my experience, he will, in a heartbeat, sacrifice fulfilling his / his family’s needs to attend to another’s wants. He can’t say no. To be good, a man HAS to be strong. Strong enough, among other things, to clearly & politely say no when appropriate.

Lots of glossing over & saving face with guys like that. A woman worth her salt won’t do that herself, & sees right through it when he does.

Don’t know anyone on this board who does that, though.
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
590 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:17 pm to
I appreciate the attempt at having a conversation about something you feel strongly about. Unfortunately this board is full of people who don't like to be open and honest. Deflection, deflection, deflection. You can't be surprised. How many real names do you see here? How many pictures of actual faces and bodies do you see here? This is mostly a fantasy place for fantasy people discussing fantasies in a fantastical way. If you're for real and being straight, then I do honestly appreciate folks like you that try to have a real talk with others about something important, the world needs it, but once you step into the OT you sink neck deep into a pit full of clowns so good luck.

I think strong men are men that understand that they are forever a work in progress. So any snapshot of a strong man's life could likely be unappealing. But if you pay attention over the long term you'd like what you see. In my life the strong men I've seen have lived their lives in a manner that was built around being ready, willing, and prepared to put others first and do what needed to be done based off of the goal for what was assumed to be the best long term positive outcomes.

Perfection was not the intent. Perhaps it was the goal, but that's just a way to keep oriented towards exceptionalism. They did their best with what they had, and if it didn't work out, they just tried again with hopefully better execution and outcomes. Strong men made sure they could afford to be patient when it served them and their goals. Strong men were not impulsive. Strong men in my life were methodical and unassuming and consistent, and more often than not, over the long term, they got a lot of shite done. As a result, many of people were made happy and enjoyed the benefits of these men's efforts. Most importantly, younger people often paid attention and learned how to be strong men and the cycle repeated itself.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79277 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:58 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:29 am
Posted by marigny
land of dreamy dreams
Member since May 2023
91 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:20 pm to
Maybe my reply wasn’t clear. I think we’re saying the same thing.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1973 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:12 pm to
Throughout history, a strong man was one that could impose his will, typically it was at the cost of others. Strong and good we’re much more synonymous in the context of men back then, as the thought of women’s opinions were nonexistent.

Today, a strong man can still impose his will, but a good man it’s not at the cost of others.

A good man is not oppressed, does not oppress, and seeks to relieve those who are oppressed.
Again, this can really be said about women too. It’s just that throughout history, and still today men have been in power, and for the foreseeable future will be more physically powerful, so this implies to men more often.

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79277 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:51 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:26 am
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