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In the age of the portal, how long should a cbb coach be given for a total rebuild?
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:43 pm
For example, Louisville and Michigan.
In years past, when a new coach inherits a tire fire, he is expected to complete the rebuild by year 4, with year 3 being a good to great season
In the age of the portal, is that timeline shortened in your view. Do you think if a coach doesn’t at least make the bubble by year 2, it is a red flag?
In years past, when a new coach inherits a tire fire, he is expected to complete the rebuild by year 4, with year 3 being a good to great season
In the age of the portal, is that timeline shortened in your view. Do you think if a coach doesn’t at least make the bubble by year 2, it is a red flag?
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
if Louisville doesn't give Kelsey at least three years its not fair to him. its hard to describe in words how terrible the Kenny Payne era was for the cards. I think if he's not at least near the bubble by year 3 Louisville fans can question but I also think hell have them there quicker than that
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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n the age of the portal, is that timeline shortened in your view
People always seem to overlook the other part of this situation. It's easy to say "you can go in the portal and get some studs and turn things around in 1 year!!!" while ignoring the fact that your best players that may have had a banner year can freely leave after the season too.
I think just on general principle a coach should be given 4 years to really truly evaluate their job. Portal or no portal.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 3:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Portal seems to make things harder for new coaches in most situations that Ive seen.
McMahon was left with a dirty fork and cracked styrofoam plate his first year cause everyone left and he had to fill a team in a short period of time.
McMahon was left with a dirty fork and cracked styrofoam plate his first year cause everyone left and he had to fill a team in a short period of time.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 4:03 pm to Ryan3232
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Portal seems to make things harder for new coaches in most situations that Ive seen.
McMahon was left with a dirty fork and cracked styrofoam plate his first year cause everyone left and he had to fill a team in a short period of time.
And I think Louisville should be much easier to turn around considering booster support and general basketball program strength in recent history.
I think 3 years is the right timeframe because basketball players are often big contributors as underclassmen compared to football, which often requires some more physical maturation.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 4:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
4 years
but, if ur pure garbage, 3
but, if ur pure garbage, 3
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Michigan is a POS for not canning Howard when he assaulted an opposing coach in a handshake line. Hope they never rebuild that hoops program.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
2.years
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
About 3.50 years.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
they need to show they can hold their own in the portal in Year 1 or it will be very tough.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:46 pm to DoctorWorm
You are not guaranteed to strike gold in the portal even if on paper it looks good. I think trajectory matters and you definitely need to be competing for a tournament bid by Year 3 at worst
Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:44 pm to joshnorris14
Portal works both ways. You can bring guys in, but if there isn't instant results guys bail. I actually think it's harder to build a program in the portal era.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:17 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Nate Oats lost 10 players and all 3 assistant coaches off a number one overall seed in last year's Big Dance. Does that also qualify as a total rebuild? Mostly, you have to be well organized and know what players you want to run your scheme. And work your butt off.
Basketball still has a lot fewer moving parts than football. So things can happen sooner rather than later.
Basketball still has a lot fewer moving parts than football. So things can happen sooner rather than later.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:20 am to bamameister
That's messed up. EVERY year is a re-build now. I agree with most people in this thread, you should probably be in the tournament by year three, one way or another. I'd give football coaches five years, although that's a lot in this day and age.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:33 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Still the same 4 years. Yes you can turnover a roster within a year. But you can also have your players poached yearly by other coaches, they have to have time to balance that out.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:41 am to Bunk Moreland
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I agree with most people in this thread, you should probably be in the tournament by year three, one way or another. I'd give football coaches five years, although that's a lot in this day and age.
As long as fans and administrators see the talent coming in through recruits and transfers and the team making progress, a certain reasonable patience will be exercised. But the talent has to be coming or coaches like Dan Mullens, who can coach, will be sent packing earlier than later.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
2 seasons max
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Year 3 should be NCAA tournament or bust imo
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