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re: White House disses Easter

Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:04 am to
Posted by CaptEasy
Panama City Beach
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:04 am to
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How could I possibly trash a person who never existed?



Ok, so you do not know anything about the history of mankind.


got it.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1836 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 4:06 pm to
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Ok, so you do not know anything about the history of mankind.

There’s no way you’ve ever read the seven undisputed epistles of the apostle Paul plus Colossians and Ephesians. If you’d had, you’d know that
- Jesus was a pre-existent archangel
- Jesus came down from heaven in the likeness of sinful flesh
- Jesus was killed by the archons “rulers” in the lowest level of the heavens (in the firmament)
- Theos / El Elyon / “God” the father resurrected Jesus and greatly exalted him so that he is now sitting at “God’s” right hand
- Jesus only appeared to people after he was resurrected
- Jesus appeared to Paul last. Paul went up to the third level of heaven for this vision of Jesus
- Paul’s gospel was not of man. Paul didn’t learn anything about Jesus from any man. (Long story but I’ll try to be short… the church in Galatia was questioning Paul’s authority. Paul’s reply was that his authority comes from the risen Lord Jesus himself, that he didn’t learn of the gospel by word of human mouths, and that he was equal or better than the authority of the likes of James and Peter… there isn’t one sliver of evidence or words indicating any of them had ever met a live flesh and blood human Jesus on planet earth- that would have made those who met the fleshly Jesus the ultimate in authority.)

Secondly, the narratives of Mark and the rest of the gospels used Paul’s letters as source material, directly copying word for word from Paul in some places. If these were independent accounts, there’d be no need for copying. Then Matthew copied Mark and Luke copied both of them, it was a complex web of redactments and plagiarism.

Besides the gospels written anonymously as third person narratives without any firsthand eyewitness accounts, the only other evidence of a historical Jesus is the antiquities of the Jews by Josephus… but wait - those references to Jesus turned out to be later Christian forgeries.

So we basically have no historical evidence for a Jesus on earth.

And then we have the Gospel of the ascension of Isaiah. It was written around the time of the other 4 canonical gospels and it pretty much matches Paul’s epistles perfectly, with Jesus being killed by the archons in heaven and buried in heaven and resurrected by God.

Not trying to brag but I bet I know at least two or maybe three orders of magnitude more ancient history than you do. I urge you to look into my points and research them yourself.

The book of 1 Enoch and the gospel of the ascension of Isaiah are both available in English on Amazon and are crucial for the understanding of pre-Christian fundamental differences to the theology of the Essenes (of which a later branch turned into Christians) and of the Pharisees and of pre-gospel Christianity (Paul’s Christianity).
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