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re: Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed - container ship wrecked into it

Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55451 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:48 am to
I’ll have to rewatch it, you are probably right it is probably sped up. There were the headlights of the cars going across the bridge, but I really didn’t pay attention to how fast they were going across the bridge.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:48 am to
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Could you imagine the traffic cluster if this was in BR


Diversion to old bridge I guess.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164339 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:49 am to
They'll fast track all of that. It'll be like the new twin spans bridge. It took 3.5 years to build a new bridge after starting 1 year later.

It took them 4.5 years to build the new Sunshine Skyway Bridge once they started construction 3 years later. The new bridge will be comparable to that construction. They'll build a similar cable-stayed bridge with a wider ship channel. They'll get funding quickly, it'll be marked under strategic national importance.

2030 is a good o/u
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:49 am to
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Oh say he couldn’t see?


Really a solid pun, but you won’t get the credit you deserve
Posted by Datbawwwww
Member since Oct 2023
235 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:49 am to
I don’t understand why the ship didn’t drop anchor immediately? That’s a manual system and an emergency procedure that is practiced!
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47537 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:50 am to
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I Shudder to think, but what would happen if something like this were to befall the Mississippi River Bridge?


After 9/11 The new Homeland Security folks looked at terrorist threats revolving around crippling commerce in the US. Many road and rail bridges, including i-10/190 bridges in Baton Rouge were potential targets.

But it's kind of like worrying about nukes hitting Exxon. It was one of HUNDREDS potential targets in the US.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5741 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:50 am to
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I know we are quite early in this thing.... but what is a realistic timeline to getting the bridge rebuilt?



Will it be named the James Weldon Johnson Bridge???
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 10:52 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:50 am to
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The entire bridge doesn't need to be cleaned up, just the middle section for the shipping channel. In a major state of emergency, any idea how long that would take? I'd assume a couple of weeks?



The NTSB doesnt move that quickly....it will be years by the time the lawyers, NTSB, Insurance companies, salvage companies agree on prices, plus they have to deal with the weather delays up there......
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:56 am to

This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted by tpc63086
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2016
64 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:57 am to
This is why i don't wake up at 3am and go to the gym
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2416 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:57 am to
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If a foreign power ever really wanted to hit us, they could just hit our infrastructure in a few key places


Not inferring this was a planned attack, but I seem to recall

USS John McCain
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57524 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:02 am to
It did
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52808 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:02 am to
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There were the headlights of the cars going across the bridge


they were but not right before the bridge collapsed. It doesn't look like any vehicles are moving across the bridge before it collapsed. It kind of looks like there were some stopped vehicles though, but hopefully not.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 11:51 am
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1536 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:04 am to
I read somewhere it was a ship possibly from Yemen? Isn’t that our enemy so why would their ship be allowed here? Always a foreigner of some type.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164339 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:05 am to
Walton & Johnson just confirmed it was a North Korean vessel.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19310 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:07 am to
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No idea if they'll just be able to "move it off to the side" but it will definitely be a narrower squeeze that some shipping companies may not want to mess with until it's back to normal.

Not sure if this pertains to the area where the bridge is but the main channel in the Baltimore harbor is 700 feet wide (51ft deep), so they dredged it pretty wide. I'd think they did that because it's such a busy port.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4582 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:09 am to
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I don’t understand why the ship didn’t drop anchor immediately? That’s a manual system and an emergency procedure that is practiced!

If they lost power, that could've affected it. On a boat that big, you're not stopping with just an anchor.

Anchors were dropped and a mayday call was made when they realized they couldn't control the ship. Boat was going 10 mph with almost half a mile before the bridge. They would've reached the bridge in 3 minutes at that speed, where any major corrections had to be made immediately. Anchor wasn't going to stop it in time, ever. If they don't have power to bow thrusters and the main engine, they were just going to drift into the bridge, which is what it looks like happened.


White lines are animations of wind going from right to left.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6778 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:12 am to
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Walton & Johnson just confirmed it was a North Korean vessel.

They are still using his name? The man has been dead for years and the guy the replaced him is too bitter and not humorous enough
Posted by Kansas City King
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2020
2316 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:17 am to
Baltimore is gonna have to do what Seattle does and get ferry ships to transport cars across the river. That bridge will take years to rebuild.



This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4582 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:18 am to
For a boat that size and being in the US, you still need local pilots on board to do the actual piloting, so not sure why this matters. Keep that W&J shite on the Poli Board.

And Singapore is not in Korea.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 11:21 am
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