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And the one year wade coached him they made the NIT… and now with fountain being a key piece of this team (a similar player by your own regard) we also made the NIT… so what is your point exactly?

My point is and always has been that the statement that we have established was made by Pirate King - twice, and defended both times by you and others, that WW inherited 5 "really good" players and the program was in good shape talent-wise it's just Johnny Jones sucked, is wrong and IMHO not even close to being right.

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Though I’d take Duop Reath over Will Baker any day.

Yeah the Duop Reath now absolutely, the one who's been playing organized ball for like 3 years and was raw as hell, the one we had, and I'm not big Will Baker pimp, but I could still could not say that.

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don’t think Wade inherited an ideal situation but it’s beyond obtuse to suggest Wade and McMahon inherited similar programs. Even if you think the roster Wade inherited wasn’t “filled with good players” the players he did have were undeniably better. Plus that er

I'm not trying to say that and sorry you keep drawing that conclusion. I'm merely using examples from our current roster to show the folly of the vast reach Pirate King is making with that list and keeps getting defended for.

Even Mays who of all of them was the most talented, hell that's like if Ward are Reed end up playing a year or two in the NBA down the line which is possible, they both have pretty high cielings IMHO, me coming back 5 years from now
Man CMM sucked had pro talent all over that team and barely made the NIT.

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o use the two win narrative to make it act like Wade inherited a shite show is silly. That roster was not a dogshit roster. They had a dogshit coach.

I'm not using the two win narrative, I'm just pushing back against the IMHO ridiculous argument that WW inherited 5 "really good players" he did not. And again, I will every time it's done.