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re: Boat hit rig this morning

Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at La
Member since Sep 2014
908 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Most likely an auto pilot inspired contact


This. We are guilty also of setting for the one structure 70 miles away that we can run into. That's gonna change.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17763 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:40 am to
I am stupid to offshore fishing but no one maps these wellheads by cord & shares them with garmin? Hope that’s not a silly question.
Posted by greenhead11
Member since Feb 2012
923 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:20 am to
Mapping/keeping an updated map with all the wellheads out there would be a difficult job. There are wellheads being removed everywhere. Simrad does not have the well heads all marked. I don’t believe Garmin does either.

What scares me is when well heads are not lit (as they should be) or are damaged by storms, disrepair etc and have some debris barely sticking out above the water line.

It’s a miracle this doesn’t happen more.
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
948 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:48 am to
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Was it really foggy? Like you said, there aren’t really any wellheads out there like you have inshore. Everything out there is a pretty good size structure.
It was likely foggy. Its possible that the missing guy in the bow was keeping a watch in the fog. Maybe the radar wasn't functioning? The Black Oak cam won't see through the fog.

According to NOAA [quote] Fog forms when the temperature and dew point of the air approach the same value (i.e., dew-point spread is less than 5°F) either through cooling of the air (producing advection, adiation, or upslope fog) or by adding enough moisture to raise the dew point producing steam or frontal fog). [quote]

This was the weather Tuesday morning. At 5:45 (incident around 6:30) the air temp and dew point were exactly the same (48.2°) and 100% humidity.

Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7416 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:55 am to
quote:

It was likely foggy. Its possible that the missing guy in the bow was keeping a watch in the fog. Maybe the radar wasn't functioning?


Since my wellhead theory was pretty much debunked, I think this is most likely what happened. Explains why guy was on the bow.

Terrible situation regardless. When it’s socked in out there sometimes you can’t even see the front of your own boat.
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
948 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 12:05 pm to
It has to be the reason. It the only reasonable assumption. I think they were just over confident in "unfamiliar" waters, even though they are WELL traveled and well experienced. I don't think they were careless, per se, but more over confident. If the radar wasn't functioning, they should have slowed it down. They had to be hauling arse to do the amount of damage they did to the bow, which I think is generally the strongest part of a v hull boat. They peeled it in 5+ feet.

Terrible tragedy. And it's possible that even at slow speeds the guy still falls out the bow upon impact. If you hit your head hard enough to get knocked out with no life vest, you WILL drown before anyone can get to you. You may be unconscious but your body is still breathing. A couple gulps of water before your brain wakes up and you sink rather quickly, never to be seen again.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20525 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

If the radar wasn't functioning, they should have slowed it down. They had to be hauling arse to do the amount of damage they did to the bow, which I think is generally the strongest part of a v hull boat. They peeled it in 5+ feet.


This. Where are the pictures online I was just curious to see the damage and how the boat took it? Amazing its still afloat.

Very unfortunate. Seems crazy to be going fast enough to do that sort of damage if the visibility was that poor and the radar wasn't working. Even with radar, as others were saying, there's a serious pucker factor in a center console going over 25mph in fog.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
3833 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

A couple gulps of water before your brain wakes up and you sink rather quickly, never to be seen again.



he will appear eventually
whether he is found or not is another story
i believe divers from the lcudc in cooperation with the blake terry foundation were out there to do a bottom search
cannot confirm...
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
948 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:25 pm to
Bow picture still on first page
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17279 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 4:07 pm to
Wonder why the other pic(s) were removed?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:19 am to
quote:

guilty also of setting for the one structure 70 miles away that we can run into


Might be a good idea to set it for a mile east or west of it from now on. I seem to remember my buddies autopilot being a little bit retarded sometimes.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17763 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 9:20 am to
Thanks! That’s wild they aren’t mapped and shared
Posted by Fraid Knot
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jul 2019
95 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:05 am to
BOEM maitains an accurate database of all OCS platforms, including platforms that have been removed. This only applies to platforms and wellheads in OCS waters outside the 3 mile line. The database can be used to import these locations into any gps system with the use of com software.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90885 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Most likely an auto pilot inspired contact. Happens frequently enough to be a known issue


I’d never trust technology that much. One of my biggest fears is hitting something in a boat I can’t see or don’t know is there. Having knowledge of the area you’re going is paramount

I always get a detailed map and try to find a local to point out any areas of concern on it if I’m going to be boating in an unfamiliar place
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90885 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:57 am to
Completely preventable tragedy. If you’re in low visibility go slow and wear your life vests.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 3:55 pm to
wear a life vest out of consideration for rescuers and family. makes it easier to find the body

It's not just an issue of having gps coordinates plugged in for hazards. There is also a lot of ships to run into and it happens with no one watching
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34385 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:30 pm to
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I will just never understand how you can get that complacent. That's vehicular homicide level negligence on the part of the captain


Collected some downvotes, but I'm more confident in this statement now than I was then.
Posted by Novastar
Member since Jan 2023
294 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:34 am to
Boat was found floating upside down in the Atchafalaya Bay on Friday.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 11:16 am to
Good opportunity to talk about a boat thing we don't talk about enough - stability. Most center console boats are pretty top-heavy and can be prone to flipping. It's paramount that you make sure your boat won't hold more water on the deck than it's designed for. It sounds bad but if it's enough that it can't clear the deck quickly, it needs to have a good path to get to the bilge. An already top heavy boat with a bunch of water on the deck loves to flip.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16999 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:59 am to
The missing boater is Sandy Royster my friend since I was 10 or so. We are devastated needless to say. His dad, has paid a team to try and locate him, although he knows the chances are almost 0. He has 3 young children. Just pray for him folks it’s all we can do.
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