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re: Is Trump a faithful, practicing Christian?

Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:00 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:00 am to
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You do have that right, & I respect that. How do you think you would have reacted to Paul?
The Apostle? I’m sure I would have been weary of him at first, the the other Apostles were, but showing his repentance, he was accepted.

Trump doesn’t show fruits of a repentant heart as Paul did. He doesn’t go to church from all the reports I’ve seen. He speaks of “God” a lot, but not of Christ his savior (even the demons believe in God). Paul was a slave of Jesus after his conversion.

I’m not expecting a deep theology from political candidates, but I do expect men whom I vote for to be godly men, devoted to Jesus Christ, and who exemplify that faith in their daily walk.

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Trump has done that on many occasions. More so than any other president in my lifetime.
He has acknowledged that he will have to give an account to Jesus one day for how he rules and governs? I haven’t heard that, so if you could correct me there, I’d appreciate it.

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He often quotes the bible at every rally, speaks about what God has done for him
Politicians have historically quoted from the Bible and spoken about God, especially when pandering to religious voters. “God” is a great catch-all word precisely because it covers so many people. Christians, Mormons, Unitarians, Deists, Hindus, and even Muslims, among others, can listen to those words and not be offended. How often does Trump acknowledge Jesus as Lord and King?

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& fights for the sanctity of Christian values in this country.
I appreciate and agree with his positions on some social issues, but I can say that about Vivek, who is a Hindu. And at the same time, Trump has embraced the LGB community, even posing with the rainbow flag. There are atheists who are pro-life, yet I couldn’t vote for someone who openly hates God, no matter how much I might agree with them on certain policy issues.

Ultimately this comes down to how I want to honor the Lord. Can I honor Him by endorsing with my vote a person who supports what God hates? Can I honor Him by endorsing a person who doesn’t publicly acknowledge that Christ has been given all authority in Heaven and on earth? Can I honor Him by trusting in man rather than God (by hoping an ungodly person will be a political savior of our country rather than being faithful in trusting the Lord and His promises)?

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Trump is a flawed man, as was many men God has used. Whether he is a Christian, I don't really know, but he is on the right side of things and has asked that you pray for him.
I get that. He isn t just flawed, though. All humans are sinful but Christians are called to lives of holiness, seeking to be conformed to the image of Christ and putting sin to death. Wrestling with sin is a sign of saving faith. Not wrestling with sin is a sign that a person is not even a Christian. If Trump would publicly acknowledge his sin and confess that he is repentant and seeks to honor Christ above all, I might change my mind on voting for him.

I will continue to pray for him, as I do all my leaders, since Christians are supposed to pray for their leaders.

In closing, I get why Christians are going to vote for Trump. I did it twice. I’m not saying that someone isn’t a Christian if they vote for him or anyone else; our voting patterns do not save us, only Christ does. I’m just attempting to explain why I won’t be voting for him again.
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