Not to be contrary (we’re kinda splitting hairs) but I work in energy. I work with this stuff daily. The prices of consumer goods will be untenable without .gov interaction in a low carbon system, without generational technological breakthroughs. The taxpayer will fund that .gov interaction. Woods talks about this toward the end of the article, referring to subsidies.

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Posted by molsusports

Member since Jul 2004

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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:52 pm to turkish

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Not to be contrary (we’re kinda splitting hairs) but I work in energy. I work with this stuff daily. The prices of consumer goods will be untenable without .gov interaction in a low carbon system, without generational technological breakthroughs. The taxpayer will fund that .gov interaction.

I don't follow the logic to the same conclusion.

I agree that the renewable like solar and wind won't work. Anyone closely following the issue now realizes that. See Germany over the last dozen years. See batteries and energy storage being years away. See the spatial, technical, and resources required to create duplicate energy grids when some of it is only available intermittently.

But the subsidy part is also wishcasting. The amount of energy needed and the required cheapness of energy required just is not possible by government subsidy. Even if our ability to subsidize "green" energy wasn't limited by the debt to GDP issue.

Heavy investment in nuclear might work in the longer run but that would also require the people who say we're dying in 15 years from global warming to stop blocking nuclear power use through a thousand different legal shenanigans.

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Posted by AndyCBR

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Nov 2012

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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:26 pm to turkish

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Not to be contrary (we’re kinda splitting hairs) but I work in energy. I work with this stuff daily. The prices of consumer goods will be untenable without .gov interaction in a low carbon system, without generational technological breakthroughs. The taxpayer will fund that .gov interaction. Woods talks about this toward the end of the article, referring to subsidies.

I think you have to believe that the "climate change" problem is actually real, man-made, and then, possible for man to "solve".

I would consider that science, unsettled at best.

Do our actions affect the environment around us, sure, but to what extent is the real question.

And what is the point of punishing our economy and citizens while the bulk of the other developing nations are firing up coal plants weekly?

I think there has to be balance between clean energy and affordable energy.

And as other posters have stated, Nuclear blows all the other current options out of the water. And we have that technology today.

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