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re: New LSU Arena? - EBR Metro Council Agenda
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:46 pm to tigersbb
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:46 pm to tigersbb
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This would be so fricking horrible. Women's basketball and gymnastics are drawing sellout crowds of 13,000 at the PMAC. Men's basketball appears to have turned the corner to where they will be competitive in the SEC and could approach crowds of 10,000 soon. It will be devestating to recruit to an arena with SWAC like capacity even for 2 to 3 years. They cannot give up the crowd advantage for any season.
Holy overreaction
If LSU is going to build a new arena, particularly one at the current site of the PMAC (which is the best spot for it), they have to be able to play somewhere. The River Center for a year or two is the most reasonable and cost-effective site. If gym and WBB are good people will still attend the games. The men's basketball program hasn't turned a corner after two games. Hopefully they will. But huge crowds aren't on the horizon just yet.
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It will be devestating to recruit to an arena with SWAC like capacity even for 2 to 3 years.
The days of new arenas with large capacities are over (at least for the foreseeable future). The last two new SEC basketball stadiums (Auburn and Ole Miss) hold less than 10,000 people. And for having, as you say, a "SWAC-like capacity", Auburn is the best home environment in the SEC. Likewise, Alabama has plans to build a new basketball stadium with an expected capacity of just over 10k to replace Coleman Coliseum which currently holds just under 15k. Last year Miss. St renovated Humphrey Coliseum to REDUCE the capacity to under 10k. Last month Baylor opened a new basketball arena that holds appx. 7,500. It replaced their old arena that held over 10k. And that's a school with multiple (men's and women's national championships) I would be very surprised if any new LSU arena would hold more than 11k (if even that). The River Center holds about 9k. That's plenty good enough for a year or two in exchange for a new arena.
A temporary seating capacity of 9k would have literally ZERO effect on recruiting.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 2:48 pm
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:13 pm to Alt26
I don't buy the downsizing argument for LSU. You are comparing Baton Rouge to Auburn and Oxford. The Pavilion also holds more than the Tad did, and Neville is only slightly smaller than the old arena. I expect any arena to be around the same capacity. The true value of those new arenas is the creation of clubs that moved big donors up and the student section to the majority of the low level seats. We should 100% follow suit on that.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:19 pm to Alt26
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The days of new arenas with large capacities are over (at least for the foreseeable future). The last two new SEC basketball stadiums (Auburn and Ole Miss) hold less than 10,000 people.
Maybe, maybe not.
Not SEC, don't think it matters, but Nebraska's new arena seats 15K and Marquette's 17K. Both were built about the same time as Ole Miss'. Moreover, Ole Miss' Tad Pad had less capacity than the new arena and Auburn's capcity is approximately the same.
I do believe you are correct in your assessment, but I don't think it's a given that a new arena will be built at a reduced capacity.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:30 pm to Alt26
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Auburn is the best home environment in the SEC
I am so fricking tired of hearing about Auburn's home environment. They put 10,000 in their small arena and yes they are loud, But the PMAC for women's basketball and gymnastics is no different when those teams are doing well and there are 2,000 to 3,000 more fans than Auburn. The PMAC is the best venue for women's basketball and gymnastics in the country, At some point I am convinced men's basketball will return to a prominent spot within the conference and will begin to draw large crowds.
Why in the hell would we want to reduce capacity by a third just to be like Auburn, We have a much larger population base to draw from and historically have packed the PMAC when there are ranked and contending teams. If a new arena is built it should at the least maintain the same capacity. If that is the answer it should be at a totally new site with the PMAC used until the new arena opens. Moving to the River Center would set all programs back.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:10 pm to Alt26
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The days of new arenas with large capacities are over (at least for the foreseeable future). The last two new SEC basketball stadiums (Auburn and Ole Miss) hold less than 10,000 people
I would agree with you if it were to be an LSU sports only facility, and personally, I wish they would do that. But it doesn't make a lot of sense in a city the size of BR which is ripe for a modern (suites, amenities) ~15K arena which will attract non-sport events and hopefully a revenue generating hotel/mixed use development.
Also consider Auburn, AL and Oxford MS have a combined population of under a 100K.
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