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re: Why does our educational system glorify stem and 4 year degrees?

Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:16 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:16 am to
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Half these kids without the aptitude to become a programmer or biologist might make damn good plumbers or mechanics.

And that not a slam. A lot of white collar people are hopeless when it comes to spatial sense or working with their hands.




yes, a person who can get a 4-year degree in computer science would have problem with plumbing or being a mechanic

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We need to test these kids for aptitude at an early age and put them on a more logical path.

This might make a big difference with crime and with overall living standards and even just basic social harmony.

Yes, having the population cohorts most likely to engage in crime less educated will do wonders for their productivity long-term

Look, I think it is a waste to spend resources trying to educate kids who show no future, but I'm not going to pretend that my preferred plan of removing them from classes is going to impact their chances positively.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12132 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:39 am to
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yes, a person who can get a 4-year degree in computer science would have problem with plumbing or being a mechanic



Im not sure if you're serious or not on this. If you are truly laughing at the idea that someone who can read a book might not be able to work with their hands, then you are the one to be laughed at. My brother in law is a CPA and a damn good one and a damn good man, he is shite with his hands. No athletic, not coordinated, no idea how to trouble shoot issues on the fly without having an answer that he read. I love him to death but that is the truth and he even knows it.

I actually agree with the OP on this point. The issue is that so many things require a GED or high school diploma that have no need for them in the slightest. Everyone emphasizes education without the thought of a different kind of education. I have a guy that works for me that can't read or write, legit (not talking shite or hyperbole) but the dude can run equipment and is a fantastic dirt guy. If I have questions on how to make something work or how much undercut we need on a project, I have no qualms about asking his advice.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68926 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:47 am to
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yes, a person who can get a 4-year degree in computer science would have problem with plumbing or being a mechanic


You’d be surprised. I knew straight a students that couldn’t figure out how to use a broom.


Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21880 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:29 am to
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yes, a person who can get a 4-year degree in computer science would have problem with plumbing or being a mechanic


That can absolutely be the case. I seent it, multiple times.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31006 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:32 am to
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yes, a person who can get a 4-year degree in computer science would have problem with plumbing or being a mechanic


You obviously never had to hire people.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
457 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:00 am to
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yes, a person who can get a 4-year degree in computer science would have problem with plumbing or being a mechanic


My brother is a chemist. I fix every plumbing issue he has. He's completely lost.
I never went to college.
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