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re: LSUs Net went from 88 to 85.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:11 am to Bonkers119
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:11 am to Bonkers119
The Net tracks the entire season, not momentum heaeded into the postseason.
The CFP kept FSU out because of momenntum. If the NET keeps LSU out, when our momentum says we deserve a spot, it will show just how screwed up college sports are.
Regardless of the NET, I think we need to win 4/5 of our last regular season games, and make it to Saturday at the SECT.
The CFP kept FSU out because of momenntum. If the NET keeps LSU out, when our momentum says we deserve a spot, it will show just how screwed up college sports are.
Regardless of the NET, I think we need to win 4/5 of our last regular season games, and make it to Saturday at the SECT.
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:16 am to thunderbird1100
I think our road record is killing us. McNeese has a 54 Net with 1 Q1 win 1 Q4 loss but a 9-3 road record. Is there any sense to the madness. 
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:19 am to LSUFanHouston
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The CFP kept FSU out because of momenntum. If the NET keeps LSU out, when our momentum says we deserve a spot
There is a committee for NCAAT too. They use NET as a factor, but it’s not the deciding factor.
6 top 48 NET teams got left out last year & four 50+ teams got in
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:45 am to Bonkers119
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LSUs Net went from 88 to 85.
What a joke. That Nicholls loss is brutal. Miss State is another quad 1 opportunity. Just try to get close to 70 before the SEC tourney, and make the committee make a decision.
LSU is actually up to 75 at Kenpom LINK /
If they beat Miss St, they should get into the 60s, and should get up to 65. The next 2 games against Miss St and Georgia are the toughest remaining teams, but the away game against Arkansas may be the toughest. I don't think they will be penalized too much for losing any of those games if they are close games, but if they can win 2 out of those 3, and beat Vandy and Missouri, then they should be a bubble team. If they win out the regular season, I think they deserve to be in the NCAAT, but they may need at least 1 win in the SEC tournament to make it tough to keep them out of the NCAAT. This season has become exciting!
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:48 am to tarzana
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Surely if we beat State the NET will slide upward into "bubble talk" territory
nah
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:59 am to lsudave1
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One bad loss in the 3rd game
To be honest, LSU's whole pre-SEC schedule performance was not outstanding. The loss to Nicholls smelled, but there were no notable wins, a late collapse vs Dayton (a solid highseed tourney team), and big losses to Syracuse, K St. and Texas, none of whom are likely to dance this year.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:09 am to tarzana
There is one way to get that NCAAT bid and I don’t think it’s too far from the realm of possibility.
Go to Nashville and win the SECT.
Sure, we haven’t done it since 1980, and we’ve only been to the SECT Championship three times since I’ve been alive (1987, 1993, and 2021), but if we can beat South Carolina and Kentucky in back to back games, and play Tom Petty basketball no matter who our opponent is, why not?
Go to Nashville and win the SECT.
Sure, we haven’t done it since 1980, and we’ve only been to the SECT Championship three times since I’ve been alive (1987, 1993, and 2021), but if we can beat South Carolina and Kentucky in back to back games, and play Tom Petty basketball no matter who our opponent is, why not?
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:31 am to tarzana
Everyone continues to sleep on that Dayton loss. If we have that win our outlook is entirely different.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:46 am to St Jean The Baptiste
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There is one way to get that NCAAT bid and I don’t think it’s too far from the realm of possibility.
Go to Nashville and win the SECT.
Sure, we haven’t done it since 1980, and we’ve only been to the SECT Championship three times since I’ve been alive (1987, 1993, and 2021), but if we can beat South Carolina and Kentucky in back to back games, and play Tom Petty basketball no matter who our opponent is, why not?
I'd LOVE to see it happen. But I think Auburn, Tennessee and Alabama are just a LOT better overall. Kentucky is/was a tick behind them (even though they did beat Auburn). That takes nothing away from LSU's win last night. It's just to say it's hard to see LSU winning multiple games against those three in the tournament...which they would likely have to do unless the bracket fell apart around them.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:52 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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We need to win out to even have a thought about a postseason that doesn’t include the NIT, and then at least win one SEC tournament game.
Is March going to be fun again?
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:59 am to Lapaz
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If they beat Miss St, they should get into the 60s, and should get up to 65.
How they beat MSU would determine that. For instance, if LSU were to win a 62-60 slugfest where LSU's offense was bad it probably wouldn't result in a big jump. Now, if LSU were to win with a score of 85-78 where they shot the ball over 50% and had limited turnovers it would be a much bigger jump. Why? Because MSU is the 13th best defensive team in the rating. So LSU having a great offensive game against a great defensive team would be very impactful in the rankings.
LSU moved up after last night's win not simply because they beat Kentucky (teams can actually move up with losses and down with wins). It's because they played solid defense against a REALLY good offensive team. They forced Kentucky into a few more turnovers than UK was averaging while also holding Kentucky about 4% below their average FG %. LSU's offensive rating, despite the win, actually got WORSE because they weren't terribly efficient against a team that wasn't rated very high defensively.
Again, those ratings are just data. It's why 15-11 Villanova is ranked 30th, 15-12 St. John's is 44, 13-13 Xavier is 49, and 14-12 LSU is 75. Those teams, despite their W/L records have been more efficient than LSU.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:05 pm to OSTiger77
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I think our road record is killing us.
It is to some degree...but probably not as much as LSU being relatively inefficient in the predictive data
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Is there any sense to the madness
In part, yes. True road wins count 2x as much as a win at home. Neutral site wins count for more than home wins...though not as much as true road wins.
The reasoning is simple. In no other sport is homefield/court advantage bigger than in college basketball. So teams should get more credit for doing something difficult (winning on the road)
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:25 pm to Bonkers119
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What a joke. That Nicholls loss is brutal. Miss State is another quad 1 opportunity. Just try to get close to 70 before the SEC tourney, and make the committee make a decision.
Give a few games. Net is a function of more than just what LSU does. Look at McNeese in the latest NET. They did not play and went from 51 to 54.
LSU can win the rest of these. Moo State is the toughest yet
Remaining games Team NET
Mississippi St.-36-Q2
Georgia-95-Q3
@Vanderbilt-232-Q3
@Arkansas-120-Q2
Missouri-147-Q3
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:36 pm to St Jean The Baptiste
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Go to Nashville and win the SEC
That's not too far-fetched this year given the parity in the conference. I believe LSU might be in the mix of they could get a bye (not play on Wednesday) and if they could avoid Alabama (that's the one team they don't match up well with).
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:42 pm to Bonkers119
NET will not be good enough even if we win out. too many Q4 games and it takes margin of victory into consideration and we haven't been blowing teams out and do have some larger losses. Focus on beating everyone in front of you. An LSU team from a good SEC with 20+ wins will have a chance, the bubble isn't all that strong this year. give the committee a reason to talk about LSU by winning out
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