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re: The ACC is about crumble
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:31 am to jlovel7
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:31 am to jlovel7
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Yeah this may be the end of UVA in a major athletic conference. They’re in a league all their own in terms of academic arrogance and attitude (and they have totally earned that)
UVA isn't worth the trouble. Honestly Virginia Tech, not UVA, is the state school in Virginia. You go outside any metro area and anywhere along the I-81 corridor and it's all Virginia Tech. And VT still has a good sized fan base in Richmond, Norfolk/Virginia Beach and DC/Nortnern Virginia. UVA's fan base is largely restricted to DC/Northern Virginia, Richmond and Charlottesville.
Virginia Tech is the state school of Virginia and is a far better cultural fit (emphasis on football, passionate fan base, good game day environment) for the SEC.
UNC and NC State are closer but again UNC, like UVA, is a wine and cheese crowd for football. UNC was nothing after Mack Brown left the first time and they'll be nothing again after Mack Brown leaves the second time. Yes they offer basketball but it's football, not basketball, that is driving the expansion. NC State is again the better cultural fit for the SEC.
If it was me in those SEC meetings I'm supporting FSU, Clemson, NC State and Virginia Tech. You expand the footprint into North Carolina and Virginia while still having a contiguous conference. You also by and large keep the Big Ten out of the heart of SEC territory in any meaningful way. Let the Big Ten take Miami and Georgia Tech, neither of those schools really move the needle and really help them plant a major base in the South.
The way I see it working out. ND and UVA go to the Big Ten. VT, UNC (though I would prefer NC State), Clemson and FSU go to the SEC.
Miami and NC State go to the Big 12.
Pitt, Louisville and GT battle over the two remaining spots in the Big 12. One could end up really getting screwed and having to go down to the American (Or also go the Big East route and then just go Independent for football).
I think Duke, Wake, Syracuse and Boston College all go the UConn route and join the Big East for basketball and go independent for football (or drop it altogether which I think isn't as unlikely as many would think).
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:39 am to CelebrationSaint
quote:Wake just cut the ribbon on a $38,000,000 locker room at their practice facility. Duke just hired Manny Diaz. These schools want to have competitive football programs.
I think Duke, Wake, Syracuse and Boston College all go the UConn route and join the Big East for basketball and go independent for football (or drop it altogether which I think isn't as unlikely as many would think).
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:13 pm to CelebrationSaint
Louisville is pretty much a lock for the Big 12 IMO
Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:41 pm to CelebrationSaint
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think Duke, Wake, Syracuse and Boston College all go the UConn route and join the Big East for basketball and go independent for football (or drop it altogether which I think isn't as unlikely as many would think).
Schools that don't make big money playing football should drop the sport. They can pretend that it was about CTE and young men's brain damage but the reality is they just can't compete. And if you can't compete then pull the plug and stop pouring good money after bad.
If Northwestern and Vanderbilt weren't in lucrative conferences the same would apply to them.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:26 am to CelebrationSaint
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UVA isn't worth the trouble. Honestly Virginia Tech, not UVA, is the state school in Virginia. You go outside any metro area and anywhere along the I-81 corridor and it's all Virginia Tech. And VT still has a good sized fan base in Richmond, Norfolk/Virginia Beach and DC/Nortnern Virginia. UVA's fan base is largely restricted to DC/Northern Virginia, Richmond and Charlottesville. Virginia Tech is the state school of Virginia
That is flat out lie
As someone who grew up in VA you are just making shite up. VT has always been a regional school in that SW corner. VT’s popularity exploded with MV7 when its applications in state like tripled. But that’s cooled down. UVA has always been the state school. No one dominants DC metro. Not even Maryland which is in the area. Penn State, WVU are closer to the area than VT and have huge bases there. Also tons of SEC fans. It’s a huge transplant market.
WVU and VT played at FedEx a few years ago and it was a 50/50. The younger VT fans who didn’t even know the Black Diamond trophy was a rivalry were shocked it wasn’t a home game for them.
There is reason VT has always had little brother syndrome to UVA and needed UVA to get them in the ACC.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 8:32 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:32 pm to CelebrationSaint
The only for sure thing is that the B1G will expand into Florida. Everything else….people are just guessing.
Also the SEC and B1G gain absolutely nothing by adding programs like UVA, VT, NC State. Might as well add Pitt and BC while you’re at it because none of the those schools move the needle in football
Also the SEC and B1G gain absolutely nothing by adding programs like UVA, VT, NC State. Might as well add Pitt and BC while you’re at it because none of the those schools move the needle in football
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