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re: Dune: Part 2 (96% RT) SPOILERS pg 3
Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:49 am to Esquire
Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:49 am to Esquire
It was really good but not quite as good as the critics are making it out to be. I think 1 was better. I know it's not possible, but the first book should have been a trilogy. There was a lot rushed at the end of this one and the pacing suffered.
This was 100% a technical masterpiece and moviemaking at its finest. I haven't been to the theaters since 2022 and I haven't been to a legit movie in theaters since before Covid, but I'm incredibly happy that I saw this in XD for the sound alone. The sound mixing in this movie is incredible, and the scene where Paul rides the worm was INSANE.
The set design, costumes, production, CGI, etc. were apex-level cinema.
The issue was the story, and the pacing issues that occurred. The first one did have this too. I remember we were all hoping those comments about the extra footage would lead to a director's cut getting shut down by DV. I imagine there isn't that much excess here, b/c of the choices he made to avoid a 5-hour movie.
However, I really do wish they would have spent more time off world and given the emperor and that level of politics at least another 10 minutes. The parts with the major politics mixed around Giedi Prime, is probably the best part of the movie. We needed more of that to set up the final confrontation. Other than just pacing, the ending was EXTREMELY rushed.
One scene in particular I was REALLY hoping to see DV get to do was this one. That scene with a proper budget and director can be apex stuff. This isn't a criticism more of a personal wish. I understand that they had to make sacrifices and having DV with a budget do a 75% off version is better than nothing. Otherwise, that clip shows the OTHER sacrifices you have to make (which are worse. Nobody wanted more scify-level Dune attempts).
Too bad Bezos didn't spend the billion on a Dune series.
Also, I agree about Zendaya. I'm over her same character that she plays in every role. Felt that way after the first Spiderman.
Somewhere between an 8.0 and 8.5 / 10. I think it's like the Dark Knight where the extremely cinematic nature of the movie is going to lead to an early onslaught over over-praise, but it will settle back down in time. I imagine this board has aged since TDK and won't jump me now like they did the night of TDK premier
This was 100% a technical masterpiece and moviemaking at its finest. I haven't been to the theaters since 2022 and I haven't been to a legit movie in theaters since before Covid, but I'm incredibly happy that I saw this in XD for the sound alone. The sound mixing in this movie is incredible, and the scene where Paul rides the worm was INSANE.
The set design, costumes, production, CGI, etc. were apex-level cinema.
The issue was the story, and the pacing issues that occurred. The first one did have this too. I remember we were all hoping those comments about the extra footage would lead to a director's cut getting shut down by DV. I imagine there isn't that much excess here, b/c of the choices he made to avoid a 5-hour movie.
However, I really do wish they would have spent more time off world and given the emperor and that level of politics at least another 10 minutes. The parts with the major politics mixed around Giedi Prime, is probably the best part of the movie. We needed more of that to set up the final confrontation. Other than just pacing, the ending was EXTREMELY rushed.
One scene in particular I was REALLY hoping to see DV get to do was this one. That scene with a proper budget and director can be apex stuff. This isn't a criticism more of a personal wish. I understand that they had to make sacrifices and having DV with a budget do a 75% off version is better than nothing. Otherwise, that clip shows the OTHER sacrifices you have to make (which are worse. Nobody wanted more scify-level Dune attempts).
Too bad Bezos didn't spend the billion on a Dune series.
Also, I agree about Zendaya. I'm over her same character that she plays in every role. Felt that way after the first Spiderman.
Somewhere between an 8.0 and 8.5 / 10. I think it's like the Dark Knight where the extremely cinematic nature of the movie is going to lead to an early onslaught over over-praise, but it will settle back down in time. I imagine this board has aged since TDK and won't jump me now like they did the night of TDK premier
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Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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Also, I agree about Zendaya. I'm over her same character that she plays in every role. Felt that way after the first Spiderman.
I can understand the disdain for Zendaya playing Zendaya in everything she’s in. But I stand by thinking the characterization of Chani in the context of this story actually makes sense and is even an improvement on the source material. I’m not going to stan for her winning any awards for the performance but I think she does fit this particular role for what DV is trying to convey.
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Somewhere between an 8.0 and 8.5 / 10. I think it's like the Dark Knight where the extremely cinematic nature of the movie is going to lead to an early onslaught over over-praise, but it will settle back down in time. I imagine this board has aged since TDK and won't jump me now like they did the night of TDK premier
Like TDK, I think this was a really good second film in a trilogy. Its legacy will be partly determined if DV can stick the landing in Part 3; I think TDK suffers in some ways because TDKR missed the mark. A good second has to be the glue between a novel first film and a satisfying third.
This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 8:19 am
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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The sound mixing in this movie is incredible, and the scene where Paul rides the worm was INSANE.
Stunning scene, the best part of the movie.
It felt like you were right there on the worm.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I know it's not possible, but the first book should have been a trilogy. There was a lot rushed at the end of this one and the pacing suffered.
I 100% agree with this. The film is absolutely brilliant but the ending, though a visual marvel, is a bit anticlimactic. Also, as someone who has not read Dune, I missed a few things because of how rushed they were. I went back after the film and read the plot of Dune and noticed I missed some things that were there in the film, but just hard to grasp because of how much had to be packed in.
All that said, it was so good. Denis Villeneuve is on my list of directors that if they make a film, I go see it, no questions asked. However, I hope after this he gets away from the sci-fi genre for a bit. He is capable of making great films in other genres. I wouldn’t want to miss out on the next Sicario because DV got pigeonholed in genre films.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Basically all of this. I haven’t read the books but could tell it felt rushed. Left thinking it was a masterpiece in execution of set design, cgi, costume design, and sound design but I wish we could have gotten two movies out of that instead of 1. Still the best movie I have seen in the theaters since Dune 1 TBH.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 1:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Somewhere between an 8.0 and 8.5 / 10. I think it's like the Dark Knight where the extremely cinematic nature of the movie is going to lead to an early onslaught over over-praise, but it will settle back down in time. I imagine this board has aged since TDK and won't jump me now like they did the night of TDK premier
Strange way of putting it, since it has been more than 15 years, and TDK is no less highly regarded.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Somewhere between an 8.0 and 8.5 / 10. I think it's like the Dark Knight where the extremely cinematic nature of the movie is going to lead to an early onslaught over over-praise, but it will settle back down in time. I imagine this board has aged since TDK and won't jump me now like they did the night of TDK premier
God damn it. I hate that I agree with you. But you’re spot on with everything.
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