Actually I was part of a set up for my client in 2010 when they decided to open up an office in Moscow. I dealt with "legal" concerns mostly. Had to go there 2x for a month each time. The corruption you deal with there is profound. Everybody has their hand out from the local politicians and some national ones in the Duma to low level bureaucrats.....and then there are their associates in the private sector some of which do not try to hide their tattoos.

We like to bitch in the states about bureaucracy and a little graft, it is nothing when dealing with institutionalized state sanctioned graft like Russia where very little is transparent.

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Posted by David_DJS

Member since Aug 2005

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Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:02 am to KiwiHead

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Actually I was part of a set up for my client in 2010 when they decided to open up an office in Moscow. I dealt with "legal" concerns mostly. Had to go there 2x for a month each time. The corruption you deal with there is profound. Everybody has their hand out from the local politicians and some national ones in the Duma to low level bureaucrats.....and then there are their associates in the private sector some of which do not try to hide their tattoos.

Without disclosing anything private, what kind of scale are we talking about? As a percentage of revenue or percentage of running costs, how much does the corruption cost?

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We like to bitch in the states about bureaucracy and a little graft, it is nothing when dealing with institutionalized state sanctioned graft like Russia where very little is transparent.

I've traveled enough to know firsthand how fortunate we are in the US - as business people and as citizens.

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Posted by concrete_tiger

Member since May 2020

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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:08 pm to KiwiHead

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Actually I was part of a set up for my client in 2010 when they decided to open up an office in Moscow. I dealt with "legal" concerns mostly. Had to go there 2x for a month each time. The corruption you deal with there is profound. Everybody has their hand out from the local politicians and some national ones in the Duma to low level bureaucrats.....and then there are their associates in the private sector some of which do not try to hide their tattoos.

We like to bitch in the states about bureaucracy and a little graft, it is nothing when dealing with institutionalized state sanctioned graft like Russia where very little is transparent.

have you been to America?

Try getting a contract with a "local" school board.
Try getting contracts with county commissioners.
Try to push a real estate project forward and see what you encounter.

Russia isn't great, Brazil is worse, Italy not far off... at least in my experience so far. But rural Georgia might be as bad as any.

This country is corrupt as frick. Maybe not EVERYWHERE. But it is corrupt as fuuuuuuck.

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