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re: If you were going to run away, how much money would you need stashed away to feel safe?
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:33 am to WeTheTide
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:33 am to WeTheTide
Do I need to pay for a place to stay or do I have a camp already?
How long will I be gone?
I’ll need food for sure. If I’m gone for a long time, I’ll need money for clothes, medicine, new tools, etc. Do I need to pay for utilities?
How long will I be gone?
I’ll need food for sure. If I’m gone for a long time, I’ll need money for clothes, medicine, new tools, etc. Do I need to pay for utilities?
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Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:50 am to WeTheTide
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If you were going to run away, how much money would you need stashed away to feel safe?
I've often thought about this - not because I plan to do it, but just the logistics of it. If I just walked out the house with the clothes on my back, how would I get reestablished? How could I even begin to build a life?
I'd probably walk to the nearest homeless shelter and find out how it works. Can I stay for a day? Can I stay for a week? I'd try to map out how long I could live there and then go to the closest fast food establishment near it and fill out an application. I'd explain I have no cellphone so I'd need to get verbally hired. From there I'd walk to the second closest fast food place and do the same thing. Assuming I would get hired from one (or multiple) of them, I'd then make sure I stretched my shift meal as far as I could each shift and once I had at least 2 weeks in, I'd take my checks to a bank close by and open a checking account.
Mapping out bus routes to the library would be paramount, because the internet would be a necessity. I'd open an email account which I would then link to my new checking account, and also search for more lucrative (albeit low paying) jobs, all the while working. A prepaid cellphone would be one of the first things you'd need and saving for somewhere I could finally get an apartment would be a close second. I'd furnish it with goodwill stuff (including clothes, furniture, etc) and kind of go from there.
It would take months - maybe even years - before you'd be able to begin carving out any semblance of an acceptable life. It wouldn't be easy but I think I'd have the wherewithal to make it work out eventually.
However, there's probably just as an equal chance I'd get stabbed to death my first night at the shelter. So who knows?
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:54 am to WeTheTide
That's a tough question.
Are you running from the law? Then you need to go to a really sketchy place that has no extradition treaty. Probably not speaking english. My foreign language skills are not good enough to work as more than a cook or dishwasher in Paraguay or Bolivia. So you need to bring a lot of money. But then where do you keep it? Banks aren't as reputable and a couple mil under your mattress is a bad idea.
Ergo you bring even more and buy off a local police chief. Problem is, once he knows you have a lot, he keeps hitting you up for more.
Like I said, this is a tough question.
Are you running from the law? Then you need to go to a really sketchy place that has no extradition treaty. Probably not speaking english. My foreign language skills are not good enough to work as more than a cook or dishwasher in Paraguay or Bolivia. So you need to bring a lot of money. But then where do you keep it? Banks aren't as reputable and a couple mil under your mattress is a bad idea.
Ergo you bring even more and buy off a local police chief. Problem is, once he knows you have a lot, he keeps hitting you up for more.
Like I said, this is a tough question.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:56 am to WeTheTide
First world country a couple of mill.
Third world a couple of hundred thousand.
Third world a couple of hundred thousand.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:58 am to WeTheTide
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If you were going to run away, how much money would you need stashed away to feel safe?
From my wife or from my government. Two completely different answers.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:00 pm to WeTheTide
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You are fleeing the country
This changes alot. You'd prob be fine in a place like SE Asia with a few hundred thousand.
If it's in the US I agree with the other poster, at least a mil to feel comfortable for a long period of time.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:02 pm to WeTheTide
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You are fleeing the country
In that case, you are going to want to multiply whatever your number is by about 10 if you are running from the law because everyone is going to be trying to steal your cache of nuts and they know you can't report it. You need lots of little stashes all over the place.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:37 pm to tigersmanager
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If you were going to run away, how much money would you need stashed away to feel safe?
at least a mill
ok, that covers you for "maybe" 1 year at the most, then what are you going to live on?
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:14 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
In some ways running from the law and family are the same. “Running Away” implies no digital footprint, so it would have to be how much money can you carry and keep secure off the grid until you establish a new identity. I feel like in the kind of places you’d need to hide at least at first it would be difficult to keep a few bags of cash secure.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:35 pm to Motownsix
The movie Gone Girl...then go to Plan B
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:35 pm to WeTheTide
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Me personally, I’d run away with a 12 pack and a dream, but I’m interested in what the OT says.
Would depend on what I was running from...as much as possible ideally but if I had to lamb it I could get by with what I have on me at any given time, which ain't much. Unless of course the police were looking for me or would be as soon as someone realized I was missing....then they'd find you in most of the US in almost no time if they really wanted to.
When I owned a small business and had a substantial line of unsecured credit I studied ways to disappear. Thank goodness I never ran across a way to do so that would work IF someone wants to find you bad enough. I don't know if anyone would have but the folks whose money I ran off with would probably be interested in finding it if not me in the process. Still fascinated by the idea but it is almost impossible in the modern world.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:36 pm to keakar
I would like a sailing yacht and enough money for repairs and maintenance.
I could fish and when under Sail and throw some crab pots out at night when anchored.
I would go to a Mexican flea market and get a fake ID. Basically, live on the move going from Island to Island and stretching my money as far as possible.
I could fish and when under Sail and throw some crab pots out at night when anchored.
I would go to a Mexican flea market and get a fake ID. Basically, live on the move going from Island to Island and stretching my money as far as possible.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:37 pm to WeTheTide
I'd just teach yoga lessons for cash money so I wouldn't need much, probably go to Costa Rica or something like that
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:38 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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From who? If I'm fleeing the law, then that narrows down my options and makes things more expensive. If I'm just getting away from a bad relationship, that makes it much simpler.
Until the other party tells the authorities the reason you ran off was because you had attacked them and then the police are involved and you are most likely fricked. You could conceivably go to a LARGE city and live very quietly but being homeless will mean being arrested eventually and even in the largest of cities they're going to know who you are as best they can before they release you. It is damn near impossible to disappear in the world today if anyone is interested enough to find you.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:40 pm to WeTheTide
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You are fleeing the country
Damn near impossible to do without leaving a record of when and where and damn near impossible to enter any without leaving a record of when and where. Unless you have a support system in the new country that you can disappear into and can trust not to rat you out if anyone is interested in finding you.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:40 pm to Motownsix
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In some ways running from the law and family are the same. “Running Away” implies no digital footprint, so it would have to be how much money can you carry and keep secure off the grid until you establish a new identity. I feel like in the kind of places you’d need to hide at least at first it would be difficult to keep a few bags of cash secure.
I'm not really a nervous type, but this brings up the Gone Girl movie where hiding a ton of cash would make me very nervous. Lets say you go on a sail boat or something, having $2 mil in cash on a boat would be very uneasy feeling.
Prior to doing this the first order of business would be a deep look into a shell company to stash money at a low interest rate offshore where the Feds couldn't access it.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:44 pm to idlewatcher
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You'd have to have it in cash b/c your bank accounts would be frozen and not accessible.
But then you'd need ID to swap the cash for local currency provided it's for a foreign country of course.
Using plastic or a bank is the surest way to be found. The dollar is universally accepted BUT it is illegal and the fricker at the small restaurant you bought dinner at will rat you out as soon as someone in authority asks him where he got the dollars. It would be FAR easier to remain in the US and to get to the biggest city you can...like a pod of baitfish its damn near impossible to single one out if you ain't willing to eat them all...luckily the police can't eat us all.
The problem now though with this scenario is facial recognition...you are going to be on camera. If someone is interested enough the police will eventually see your mug on a camera somewhere...
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:46 pm to SaintEB
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Not if you know people. IYKYK
Knowing them is one part of it, trusting them is a whole other can of worms. If the authorities are involved and the people you know get afoul of them OR find out there is some money in it for them will they rat you out? If the answer is no you could probably last a while...it most likely is not no though.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:50 pm to Scruffy
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Why is Scruffy running?
Scruffy knows what Scruffy did.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:54 pm to WeTheTide
With less than $100K I could live very comfortably in a Central American country with no extradition.
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