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Tonight's NH primary is a textbook example of why Louisiana is moving to a closed primary
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:36 pm
During a weak election cycle, the DIMs will cross the line to try to select the weakest opponent to their guy. Repubs are far less likely to game the system. Besides, helping select the most promising DIM, only leads to disappointment. They will always vote for the (D) position. Always
If indies, or 'others' want to participate, then they can show up in the general to express their thoughts
If indies, or 'others' want to participate, then they can show up in the general to express their thoughts
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:11 am to RobbBobb
I think if you vote in a primary election - you are required to vote for that party's eventual selection in the general - or else not vote in the general.
This crap of trying to sow mischief in the other's process needs to be stopped.
This crap of trying to sow mischief in the other's process needs to be stopped.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:21 am to RobbBobb
Except, this is not at all reflective of a jungle primary? Because there’s no incentive to “cross over” and vote for an opponent in the same race your candidate is running in.
Were your parents siblings
Were your parents siblings
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:35 am to Cryin Kelly
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a jungle primary?
Is even worse
You end up with a watered down version of both philosophies. A moron like our last guv can pass themselves off as sorta conservative, and pick up enough illiterate repubs in the primary to finish in the top 2. Whereas they might not even make the general if they have to get past the loonies in their own primary first
If Jon Bel was to run in our newly created 6th vs Cleo Fields, his chances are slim of getting to the general. Where he might actually win with indies, wine moms, and RINOs. So you end up with Cleo Fields vs a more conservative republican in the general
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Were your parents siblings
Sorry, but most families are not like yours. Hate to break that news to you. Your parents will have to explain it to you later
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:01 am to RobbBobb
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During a weak election cycle, the DIMs will cross the line to try to select the weakest opponent to their guy.
Yep, they do this in Alabama and pretend they don't.
Here in Alabama you can only vote on a runoff for the party you voted for initially.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:22 am to imjustafatkid
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Here I'm Alabama you can only vote on a runoff for the party you voted for initially.
That can’t be true. Is it?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:21 am to RobbBobb
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Repubs are far less likely to game the system.
The first time I heard of this happening was in the 2008 Dem primaries when Rush Limbaugh encouraged Republican voters to vote for Obama in the primaries. Not saying I disagree with you; my point is that this has gone on for at least 15 years (most likely longer but 2008 was when I became aware of the tactic) and nothing has been done about it.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:44 am to RobbBobb
No Party people like myself should not be able to vote for a parties candidate, until the general election.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:19 am to BobABooey
Operation Chaos
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:40 am to BobABooey
[quote]The first time I heard of this happening was in the 2008 Dem primaries when Rush Limbaugh encouraged Republican voters to vote for Obama in the primaries. Not saying I disagree with you; my point is that this has gone on for at least 15 years (most likely longer but 2008 was when I became aware of the tactic) and nothing has been done about it.[/quote
It's been going on since at least 1986. Charlie Graddick encouraged Alabama Republican voters to cross over and vote for him for Governor in the Democratic Primary. This was against Democratic Party rules, however it had never been enforced. Graddick won the Primary, but was disqualified by the Democratic Party.
It's been going on since at least 1986. Charlie Graddick encouraged Alabama Republican voters to cross over and vote for him for Governor in the Democratic Primary. This was against Democratic Party rules, however it had never been enforced. Graddick won the Primary, but was disqualified by the Democratic Party.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:43 am to RobbBobb
quote:Whats the update on how this is going?
Louisiana is moving to a closed primary
It stalled out in the special session right?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:58 am to RobbBobb
I just depends on the rules of a closed primary. If you allow same day party switches then your point is moot. You would still have Democrats voting in the Republican primaries.
I would say you have to change your voting registration each time before the election but voting changes or registration can be submitted online as early as a week to 10 days before early voting begins.
There may need to be some language that existing voters cannot submit party changes after qualifying starts. New voters can still register for the party of choice, or the deadline to register to vote is now the same dates as qualifying. And if new voter has an issue such as age, 17 year olds can register but only become registered voters after they turn 18. Another issue may be change of address issues that my arise if you move to a different location and need to have your licence or ID address changed since there is a much longer window between when voting registration ends and election day.
My big issue with closed primaries is still with independents they have no choice in the primary candidates.
I would say you have to change your voting registration each time before the election but voting changes or registration can be submitted online as early as a week to 10 days before early voting begins.
There may need to be some language that existing voters cannot submit party changes after qualifying starts. New voters can still register for the party of choice, or the deadline to register to vote is now the same dates as qualifying. And if new voter has an issue such as age, 17 year olds can register but only become registered voters after they turn 18. Another issue may be change of address issues that my arise if you move to a different location and need to have your licence or ID address changed since there is a much longer window between when voting registration ends and election day.
My big issue with closed primaries is still with independents they have no choice in the primary candidates.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 8:25 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:18 am to RobbBobb
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Tonight's NH primary is a textbook example of why Louisiana is moving to a closed primary
This election was nothing like a jungle primary.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:19 am to RobbBobb
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moron like our last guv can pass themselves off as sorta conservative, and pick up enough illiterate repubs in the primary to finish in the top 2.
Oh don’t worry, now he’s guaranteed a spot in the general election. You and doubleb are morons for supporting it.
It’s also hilarious that y’all are whining about “interference” when it didn’t impact the result in NH at all. This isn’t anywhere near as big of an issue as you’re portraying it to be.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 7:23 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:21 am to RobbBobb
During a weak election cycle, the DIMs will cross the line to try to select the weakest opponent
Dim/Groomer Mission Statement......
WHATEVER IT TAKES.......BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!!!!
Never forget that ^^^^
Dim/Groomer Mission Statement......
WHATEVER IT TAKES.......BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!!!!
Never forget that ^^^^
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:58 am to RobbBobb
All states should.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:18 am to RobbBobb
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A moron like our last guv can pass themselves off as sorta conservative, and pick up enough illiterate repubs in the primary to finish in the top 2. Whereas they might not even make the general if they have to get past the loonies in their own primary first
Except no other dems wanted to run in the race. A closed primary would have made no difference. The repubs beat each other up, and then faced a democrat. Same thing would have happened with a closed primary.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:19 am to RobbBobb
If the dems really wanted Orange to win like the bots claim
Wouldnt all the dems have voted for Orange and not Nikki?
Wouldnt all the dems have voted for Orange and not Nikki?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:50 am to BigJim
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Same thing would have happened with a closed primary.
What made up delusion is this? JBE got tons of free air time because of the jungle system. Once Vitter was the announced (R) candidate in a closed system, only then would people have bothered to even look at JBE
But its more likely that a black DIM would have come close to knocking JBE out, rather than just let him coast. It becomes a completely different election under a closed system
Look no further than the John Kasich endorsement of Hillary after the 2016 closed primaries. No one cared that his feelings were hurt. Trump still won
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:54 am to TBoy
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Here I'm Alabama you can only vote on a runoff for the party you voted for initially.
That can’t be true. Is it?
The Landmass has the same rule. You can't vote in one primary and the other runoff.
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