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re: If Trump loses in the general this November, would you still support him in 2028?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:04 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:04 am to wackatimesthree
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Trump was the least conservative POTUS in my lifetime.
So who in your lifetime was conservative? Just for an example.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:08 am to hikingfan
Absolutely. President Trump deserves to win, needs to win, must win. They stole that election from him in 2020. Hopefully, the American electorate will send a message to the Cabal - don't import illegal aliens, then kick our kids out of school so that you can make room for the 'illegals' in their school gymnasium. Don't target our children for gender transition surgery, and don't allow male trannies, who identify as female, in our daughter's shower room. Don't engage in voter fraud.
Regardless, if President Trump loses this 2024 election it will be the last conservative Republican nominee to win in any Presidential Election. Why do I say that? Cause we won't have a country left. Joe Biden and his radical leftists will have destroyed everything, including our voting system. Heck, we might not even have a world left, cause the America-hating enemies will have blown it to bits with nukes.
Elections have consequences. Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
Regardless, if President Trump loses this 2024 election it will be the last conservative Republican nominee to win in any Presidential Election. Why do I say that? Cause we won't have a country left. Joe Biden and his radical leftists will have destroyed everything, including our voting system. Heck, we might not even have a world left, cause the America-hating enemies will have blown it to bits with nukes.
Elections have consequences. Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 9:00 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:10 am to hikingfan
Enough with the geriatric candidates. He is already too old.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:26 am to hikingfan
Wouldn’t Trump be like 90 years old next cycle?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:27 am to SloaneRanger
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Enough with the geriatric candidates. He is already too old.
No more Boomers would be a great national movement.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 7:28 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:44 am to hikingfan
That's a LONG time from now for an old man. Would have to access then.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:01 am to hikingfan
You know he'll be too old then. This is his last chance, just like Regan's reelection. This is America's last chance too.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:58 am to hikingfan
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Assuming he decides to run again, of course?
Most Americans I know who support Trump agree this election is Trump's last legitimate run for the presidency.......and America First moves on to the next candidate who pledges to dismantle the corrupt DC Uniparty Globalist political system.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:01 am to hikingfan
No, he will not run again. He will be too old and he shouldn’t run again. We have already lost this nation so it doesn’t really matter if he win or not. He tried but too many people in this nation are idiots and we have lost. It’s just a matter of time before civil war takes place in the United States. Our government is about to actively and aggressively staff our military with illegal aliens. You will begin to hear talk of allowing illegals to join the military to earn their citizenship.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:02 am to hikingfan
Really dumb thread. Vivek 28
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:06 am to hikingfan
Amazing the number of Trump supporters in here claiming there won't be future elections just to avoid having to acknowledge that they'd vote for Trump regardless of how old he is or how many times he's failed to win.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:09 am to CamdenTiger
what's your favorite part about Donald Trump? Is it the ten percent tariffs across the board? If so, you may be a Clinton-era Democrat.
Is it the massive spending, to the tune of $7.8 trillion in four years? If so, you may be a Clinton-era Democrat.
Was it deregulating small and mid-sized banks, three of which have since failed? If so, you may be a Clinton-era Democrat.
How conservative Christians support this clown is beyond me.
Is it the massive spending, to the tune of $7.8 trillion in four years? If so, you may be a Clinton-era Democrat.
Was it deregulating small and mid-sized banks, three of which have since failed? If so, you may be a Clinton-era Democrat.
How conservative Christians support this clown is beyond me.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:09 am to SloaneRanger
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Enough with the geriatric candidates. He is already too old.
Don’t get why voters are so obsessed with these dinosaur politicians. We need a youth movement.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:38 am to hikingfan
Whoever doesn't sound the most insane.
I'm a late 90s, early 00s Democrat. I believe in border security, no wars, and welfare for those who need it. Trump was and currently is the best option for those. Mainstream conservatives seem to be in favor of war, and an open border so they can use it as a wedge issue. It's why even when Republicans owned both chambers, they refused to really do shite about the border. They just left it as a wedge issue. I'm not unreasonable though, Democrats in the 00s and 90s used it as a wedge issue also, refusing to do shite about it, and just used it to virtue signal about how something has to be done.
Current "conservatives" are portrayed as haley and Desantis. Haley is war hungry and Desantis can't make his mind up on our involvement in the Ukraine/Russia war.
There's really no place for a 90s/00s Democrat to vote outside of people like trump.. who is sadly all over the place on some other policies. Maybe in 2028, other candidates in either party may rise up and offer alternatives. But it's unlikely. Because even if there are, they probably won't have a realistic chance of winning.
That's especially true if the candidate rises up within the Democrat party. Every facet of society will scream that that candidate is evil, and Democrat voters who are actually still voting Democrat, believes everything the msm tells them.. and will shun the candidate. And mainstream Republicans will go all out against the candidate if they rise in the Republican party, and that will split Republican voters.
I'm a late 90s, early 00s Democrat. I believe in border security, no wars, and welfare for those who need it. Trump was and currently is the best option for those. Mainstream conservatives seem to be in favor of war, and an open border so they can use it as a wedge issue. It's why even when Republicans owned both chambers, they refused to really do shite about the border. They just left it as a wedge issue. I'm not unreasonable though, Democrats in the 00s and 90s used it as a wedge issue also, refusing to do shite about it, and just used it to virtue signal about how something has to be done.
Current "conservatives" are portrayed as haley and Desantis. Haley is war hungry and Desantis can't make his mind up on our involvement in the Ukraine/Russia war.
There's really no place for a 90s/00s Democrat to vote outside of people like trump.. who is sadly all over the place on some other policies. Maybe in 2028, other candidates in either party may rise up and offer alternatives. But it's unlikely. Because even if there are, they probably won't have a realistic chance of winning.
That's especially true if the candidate rises up within the Democrat party. Every facet of society will scream that that candidate is evil, and Democrat voters who are actually still voting Democrat, believes everything the msm tells them.. and will shun the candidate. And mainstream Republicans will go all out against the candidate if they rise in the Republican party, and that will split Republican voters.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:40 am to Plx1776
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There's really no place for a 90s/00s Democrat to vote outside of people like trump.
The progressive movement has the support for "workers" y'all want. Bernie has been touting y'alls economics for decades.
With the exception of the border issue.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:44 am to Zarkinletch416
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Elections have consequences.
And old age has consequences. Nobody beats old age.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:54 am to hikingfan
Too old by then, Cognitive decline would be a major convern
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
Was never a Bernie fan. He never did shite outside of being a politician. The welfare he wants is what we currently have. I know people who make upwards of $8k a month, but still get $500/600 in food stamps monthly, because they manipulated the system. I imagine there are countless people who are manipulating the system like that in order to just get free shite when they don't need the resources.
At the same time, I know people who could use support but don't get it. By that I mean, they have sustained injuries or illnesses that make it impossible for them to work, but they made too much money before they were incapacitated and were only given like $15 in food stamps each month. Their life savings were used to fight the illness/injury..and disability is taking forever to get approved. Currently one of them is in the process of selling his house just to get enough money for a year or two worth of meds. Maybe after they own nothing, their stamps may go up a little..and they may qualify for Medicare.
At the same time, I know people who could use support but don't get it. By that I mean, they have sustained injuries or illnesses that make it impossible for them to work, but they made too much money before they were incapacitated and were only given like $15 in food stamps each month. Their life savings were used to fight the illness/injury..and disability is taking forever to get approved. Currently one of them is in the process of selling his house just to get enough money for a year or two worth of meds. Maybe after they own nothing, their stamps may go up a little..and they may qualify for Medicare.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:02 pm to hikingfan
He's not running in 2028.
If we don't have a good candidate - meaning a conservative who is not a globalist - then I would sit the election out.
I would join a movement to sit the election out. I would rather the Democrats have free run and have super-majorities in both the House and the Senate for 2 years than go back to voting for globalist Repbulicans just because they aren't quite as bad as the globalist Democrats.
In my view, the worst thing the Democrats could do for themselves is vote in the policies that they want. It would truly expose them for who they are. It may be bad for the country in the short term, but maybe we need to clean house in the Republican party and have a party reset.
As long as the establishment controls the party, they will ensure that we don't have the opportunity to vote for honest conservatives. They will make sure that the only people on the ballot with a chance to win are controllable...
If we don't have a good candidate - meaning a conservative who is not a globalist - then I would sit the election out.
I would join a movement to sit the election out. I would rather the Democrats have free run and have super-majorities in both the House and the Senate for 2 years than go back to voting for globalist Repbulicans just because they aren't quite as bad as the globalist Democrats.
In my view, the worst thing the Democrats could do for themselves is vote in the policies that they want. It would truly expose them for who they are. It may be bad for the country in the short term, but maybe we need to clean house in the Republican party and have a party reset.
As long as the establishment controls the party, they will ensure that we don't have the opportunity to vote for honest conservatives. They will make sure that the only people on the ballot with a chance to win are controllable...
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 12:03 pm
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