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re: United finds loose door plug bolts on some of its 737max9s after inspection.

Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:54 am to
Posted by redstick13
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38637 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:54 am to
I just flew on a 787 and I’d like to report that nothing fell off mid flight (that I know of).
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7964 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 2:50 am to
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I’m convinced it’s their hiring practices not cost cutting.

All mechanics deserve to be included, even the third world ones.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25908 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:36 am to
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Exactly. Only distance that really matters is from the ground.


In a smart-arse way this is true but in actuality distance from a suitable diversion airport is extremely important and is the whole point of the FAA's ETOPS rules. The reason this plane was ETOPS limited is that it is a lot worse to have an issue near the equal time point of a long ETOPS run than it is to have the issue within 60 mins of a diversion airport ie halfway to Hawaii from LAX vs where this plane was when it had the issue.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80266 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:41 am to
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I'm glad Southwest hasn't put me on any MAX-8 planes for my flights the last few years


This supposedly only impacts the Max-9s, which is why United is having the issues, not Southwest. I don't believe Southwest owns any Max 9s.


I was on a United Max 9 just a few weeks ago... could have been me
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24717 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:47 am to
But we’re the pilots diverse? That’s all that matters to the left.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64920 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:53 am to
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United Airlines says it found loose door plug bolts on some of its Boeing 737 Max 9s during inspections in light of the Alaska Airlines incident


After my horrible flying experience on a business trip last summer I came to the conclusion our air traffic system in this country, especially in the smaller regional airports, has lost the ability to function. I decided then that from now on, unless it’s more than a 12 hour drive, I’m done flying.

Looks like I made the right choice.

By the way, if these door plug bolts are loose, imagine what else is not up to standard on these and other aircraft now.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1132 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:59 am to
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even though I know the original problem has been corrected.


computer designed planes are perfectly fine, no need for "old school engineers" they are obsolete /s

Boeing found out you can't fix poor flight, stall, and balance problems with software upgrades

no matter how hard you wish it would

how about the F33? that was a hot mess.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80266 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:10 am to
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Boeing found out you can't fix poor flight, stall, and balance problems with software upgrades


True, but not entirely true if you're talking about the Max... The 2 flights that had the issues didn't have the dual AOA sensors. All US carriers chose for the redundancy.

Now where they failed miserably was training pilots on the changes and those with the single sensor should have been aware of the changes and known to shut off because it was likely a fault.

Boeing screwed the pooch big time. Should have never tried to retrofit the larger engines on the existing 737 frame in an effort to compete with Aerobus Neos.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38637 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:14 am to
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By the way, if these door plug bolts are loose, imagine what else is not up to standard on these and other aircraft now.



There’s plenty of stories out there about tools, leftover materials, etc being found in the hulls and tanks of planes after construction. I have a good friend who does wiring on small planes and he shares stories with me when we get together. Just assume that some of the people putting those things together in the US are stoned while doing it.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 6:15 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80266 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:50 am to
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There’s plenty of stories out there about tools, leftover materials, etc being found in the hulls and tanks of planes after construction


Aside from the battery issues the 787 initially had, wasn't there a huge issue with trash being found in those planes?
Posted by ob1pimpbobi
College Station
Member since Jul 2022
2637 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:53 am to
I'm getting on a United 737 on Sunday. Prayers.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 7:54 am
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