I hate to bring this up but looking back on some of those classes and LSU wouldn’t have been what they were without the 3* players we landed. We had quite a bit of misses on our 5* and 4* players. Especially on the DL.

We had a lot of misses period, but this has always been a part of recruiting and will always be. If you hit on about 60% of your guys then you’re doing pretty good over 4 years. That’s why I’m not sure why people get so caught up in this stuff. Some guys develop and some don’t. Doesn’t really matter what star they are. We’re still cherry picking our guys, no matter what star rating they are.

Thst’s always been my argument. We have always been able to recruit enough of all star caliber players to compete and as long as we have good leadership, LSU will always be able to compete. Just take a look at those classes, Its telling. While the recruiting sites have gotten better, I don’t think it’s much different than it was then. You still have misses/ surprises on all fronts. Good stuff!

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Posted by LifeAquatic

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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:31 am to BayouBengal99

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Some guys develop and some don’t. Doesn’t really matter what star they are

I really wish we could retire this nonsense.

Is it true that a 3* can develop into a superstar? Yes, that’s very true.

Is it also true that 4* “hit” at a much higher rate than 3*, and 5* hit at a much higher rate than 4*? Yes, that’s also very true (demonstrably so).

The bottom line is that scouting and development of lower-ranked guys is a huge part of the equation, and always will be - but so is landing highly ranked guys. There’s a reason why no team in the modern recruiting-rankings era has ever won a championship without a roster comprising >50% 4 and 5* guys.

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Posted by tiggerthetooth

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Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:23 am to BayouBengal99

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That’s why I’m not sure why people get so caught up in this stuff. Some guys develop and some don’t. Doesn’t really matter what star they are.

You're 100% wrong. 5 stars develop more often than 4 stars and 4 stars develop more often than 3 stars.

The disconnect occurs when people fail to understand how few 5 stars there and how many 3 stars there are.

There are literally thousands of 3 stars yearly vs only around 35 five stars. Which means even if only 10% of 3 stars pan out, that's still way more players than if 75% of 5 stars pan out. That's why the NFL is littered with 3 star guys. You can not have a league without tons of 3 star guys.

Also, people are more likely to notice when a 5 star doesn't pan out vs a 3 star, who in most, will not do a whole lot.

LSU's roster, as an example, has mostly 4 stars, with some 5 stars (usually under 10 guys) and the rest 3 stars.

The LSU roster composition guarantees you'll see more 4 stars progress AND fail than any other star rating. This is another reason LSU fans get hung up on the "stars don't matter" lie. You don't even notice the 3 star heavy teams LSU steamrolls annually. You only notice the handful of 3 stars that pop up at LSU.

People keep repeating the same wrong argument again and again on here trying to argue that stars are irrelevant. That's not remotely true.

We have plenty of data on this to know what happens.

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