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re: Supreme Court agrees to review Trump’s Colorado ballot ban in historic case
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What was the point of the protest?
Lots of protests with lots of reasons
Name some.
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We can even leave aside hanging our current VP.
Pence is alive and umhanged
Only because your insurrectionist buddies couldn't find him.
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What did they want to happen?
A novel legal challenge to the EC certifications
Overturning a lawful election isn't a novel legal challenge, as John Eastman is in the process of discovering in the CA Bar Court.
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What did they violently try to do?
Stand up to cops like we saw in most cities all summer in 2020
What was the end goal of their "standing up to cops" at the US Capitol on January 6th, 2021?
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:47 pm to BamaAtl
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Is the problem that you don't know what seditious conspiracy is?
No. The problem is your understanding of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
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Incorrect. The ruling is stayed, true, but without SCOTUS overturning the Colorado Supreme Court (or granting cert and slow-walking past November, which doesn't appear to be the case after today) he will be ineligible to appear on the ballot.
He is, at this moment, eligible to be in the Colorado ballot per the Colorado Suoreme Court ruling. You are wrong.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Based on insurrectionists in the past being excluded from federal office.
An admission of intellectual dishonesty
I'm sorry that history feels dishonest to you. But that's often a problem with Republicans these days.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:48 pm to BamaAtl
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So clear, in fact, that 3 was used already without said laws. It's already been done, and you're already wrong
You just aren’t good at legal arguments.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:48 pm to BBONDS25
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The problem is your understanding of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Your problem isn't with my understanding, it's with multiple judges in multiple states and their understanding.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:49 pm to BamaAtl
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Only because your insurrectionist buddies couldn't find him.
SFP is no fan of Trump. But he is an accomplished lawyer. You are out of your league. 
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:50 pm to BamaAtl
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I'm sorry that history feels dishonest to you. But that's often a problem with Republicans these days.
I asked you for a supreme Court case.
Did you respond with one?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:50 pm to BamaAtl
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Your problem isn't with my understanding, it's with multiple judges in multiple states and their understanding.
When the Supreme Court slaps this down will you appeal to authority still?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:51 pm to BamaAtl
So you’d be comfortable wagering on whether he’ll be on ballot in November? Or you’re just gonna keep avoiding because the truth of the matter is you’re a giant pussy :)
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:52 pm to BamaAtl
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he will be ineligible to appear on the ballot.
Nope. What they were banking on is that the SCOTUS wouldn't hear it in time before the absentee ballots were printed up and sent out.
Now that they are going to hear it in time, we'll just have to see about all that won't we?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:54 pm to BamaAtl
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BamaAtl
Ban bet he is on the ballot?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:57 pm to jatilen
Stupid demprogs should be arrested for subversion.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:58 pm to BamaAtl
quote:None is required by the first amendment. Nor proscribed by it.
What was the point of the protest?
quote:If someone was trying to overthrow the government they are the most laughablely prepared in all of history.
What was the ultimate goal that day, in their own words?
quote:The left of their own volition. Without overthrowing the government. So… it’s seems pretty damn clear.
What did they violently try to do?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:02 pm to BamaAtl
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Where in the 14th Amendment's text does it lay out the requirement that he be charged for insurrection? It's enough that he engaged in it, which no honest person denies.
How did he engage in it exactly? Speaking in DC the time that the so called insurrection happened doesn’t mean he engaged in it. Actually Trump stated go in peace, patriotically let your voices be heard. Hell did you not see what the media called peaceful during the summer of 2020? This is the same media that says there was a so called insurrection. No honest person thinks Trump did anything wrong. Just the nutcases that want him off the ballot!
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:03 pm to Dday63
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Article 1, section 3 says Congress can disqualify an impeached person from holding any office under the United States.
“office UNDER the United States” and “officer OF the United States” are not the same thing. And I’m thinking you’re aware of that distinction.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:05 pm to BamaAtl
Funny how you chose not to respond to my posts that blew your bullshite out of the water.
The DNC hasn’t issued you talking points for “POTUS isn’t an officer of the United States” yet, have they?
Guess you’ll need to wait for an amicus brief to quote.
The DNC hasn’t issued you talking points for “POTUS isn’t an officer of the United States” yet, have they?
Guess you’ll need to wait for an amicus brief to quote.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:07 pm to Indefatigable
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The DNC hasn’t issued you talking points for “POTUS isn’t an officer of the United States” yet, have they?
They have not.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:11 pm to BamaAtl
Biden is going to lose to Trump.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:35 pm to BamaAtl
What are your thoughts on Barack Obama and Section 1?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:40 pm to BamaAtl
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Pence is alive and unhanged
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Only because your insurrectionist buddies couldn't find him.
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BamaAtl
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