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re: Best small business retirement account contribution rate for President/ owners?

Posted on 1/5/24 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20591 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 4:21 pm to
Employer contributions are 25% of pre tax pay though right?

I should have just made the numbers easy. Lets say I pay myself $100k W-2 and $100k distributions. This seems more than reasonable from everyone I've talked to as far as the IRS goes.

Previously with my SEP I could do $50k (that's 25% of $200k). Now that I have an employee lets say I do a 10% match with SimpleIRA or 401k I'm only at $33,000 ($23k + $10k (10%)) total.

That's a damn significant chunk missing?
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1588 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:54 pm to
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Employer contributions are 25% of pre tax pay though right?


Yes, you (the business) want to deduct them.

I had a SEP back in the day and my tax lady said it was only of the W-2

I do know the SIMPLE match is only 3%. There's some other silly rule I've never seen anyone use not worth explaining, but it's lower.

Yeah, you got the math right. Other option is to fire everybody that makes it to three years.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85399 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:48 am to
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Previously with my SEP I could do $50k (that's 25% of $200k)


You can’t make a SEP contribution based on the owner distributions. It can only be based on net earnings from self employment as defined in Publication 560 Chapter 1.



This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 12:11 pm
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