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re: Insurance rates up? Here's why.

Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:34 am to
Posted by derp
Jawja
Member since Feb 2015
688 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:34 am to
Insurance fraud. Overscoped and inflated estimates. PAs, attorneys, contractors gouge tf out of carriers. Litigation out of control
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11587 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:35 am to
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Over the last several years insurance companies have paid out more in claims than they have collected in premium


frick them. That’s the bet they took.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10360 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:37 am to
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Been in the business since 1995


GFY
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45872 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:42 am to
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I have a coworker trying to get his truck fixed after it he was hit from behind in Oct. Freaking Oct. The other guys ins told him to get a quote from a particular body shop, got a $1300 quote, gave him the runaround for a month and a half, then said they wouldn't pay this body shop. To go to another. Dude can't get his truck fixed. Will probably have to hire a lawyer and sue for the repair, which will cost the insurance company way more than $1300.
Your buddy is stupid if he didn't (a) have uninsured/underinsured motorist insurance or (b) contact his insurance company if he does.
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
794 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:43 am to
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Over the last several years insurance companies have paid out more in claims than they have collected in premium, especially in auto liability claims.


This story from June says the insurers have had a high loss ratio, but not that they "paid out more in claims than they have collected in premium."

LINK

The story blames a "combination of unusually active natural catastrophes and ongoing inflation-related challenges in the private auto business".

Also, my understanding is that insurers want their premiums to be pretty close to what they pay out, because their real source of profit is not premiums over payouts, it's investments. If their premiums get too high compared to payouts, that's an indication they are charging too much and a competitor will come in offering lower rates.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5624 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:44 am to
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Your buddy is stupid if he didn't (a) have uninsured/underinsured motorist insurance or (b) contact his insurance company if he does.


This.

I went to Louisiana to visit family, got rear ended by a dude with no insurance. Paid my deductible, let my insurance fix it, they went after him, got my deductible back and truck fixed.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5925 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:48 am to
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Litigation out of control


This is a huge culprit in Louisiana. The number of billboards is a reflection of how profitable fender benders with fake injuries can be.
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3775 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:49 am to
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Your buddy is stupid if he didn't (a) have uninsured/underinsured motorist insurance or (b) contact his insurance company if he does.


How would that help?
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
3667 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:53 am to
New Orleans car thieves and mlk in Houma are probably the biggest two contributors to auto claims.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5218 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:59 am to
So “they” insurance companies just up the ante “premiums”, see how that works?
24 years in the business and it’s amazing how many people think they need to file a claim to get their premiums back.
How many businesses can sustain +100% loss and stay in business?
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21822 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:08 am to
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Insurance rates up? Here's why.


More careless uninsured blacks in BR, NOLA, Shreveport and Monroe.

Next question.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11524 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:36 am to
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bare minimum premiums


Louisiana has the highest auto premiums in the country.

My ha ins increased 126% in 2 yrs. Car insurance increased 100% same timeframe. Same vehicles. No claims. Oh and I put a new roof on my house in 2021 prior to Ida. 20+ yr history as a policy holder. Ive shopped and was told they cant beat what I got.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19447 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:39 am to
OK Obama
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21995 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:41 am to
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No shite.

Doesn't make it right though...
What do you want them to do then? Keep letting expenses for claims and operating costs continue to exceed the premium revenue coming in and keep losing money?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57422 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:42 am to
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Well I don’t want most of those toys in my vehicle. You can’t find stripped down new vehicles though.


Absolutely. Let's not forget that many of these gadgets and apps on new vehicles distract the driver's attention from the road causing more accidents.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21995 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:42 am to
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quote:

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Litigation out of control



This is a huge culprit in Louisiana. The number of billboards is a reflection of how profitable fender benders with fake injuries can be.
At least we got that NIL money and official injury lawyers of the Saints and LSU
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3035 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:45 am to
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Then someone taking my share.


You know the money at the bank in your savings account isn't sitting on a shelf in the safe right? The bank has loaned your part out to someone.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3315 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:46 am to
But are they ( ins) making it up on the other end? I get the tech and gadgetry costs more ( I mean..my Volvo has the voice command option, screen select option OR,.I can write the directions ) and to get in an accident means more cost but... Either that tech ( auto breaking, lane guidance etc) is worthless or should reduce the injury claims
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1879 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:02 am to
And then there's fraud.

When I was 25 or so, I had a fly by night insurance company. Anyway, someone hits me and dents the left front fender. No big deal; drivable, just cosmetic.

Adjuster comes to my work site and starts listing the damage:
* New Windshield
* New Hood
* New fender
* New Tires
* etc, etc...

Adjuster then tells me to go to a specific repair shop and we'll split the difference between his estimate and the actual repair cost.

Well, insurance company totals the car and sends me a check. They then ask if I want to by it back for about 30 cents on the dollar. I say "hell yea", take the money and drive the car for years more.

Don't know how common this is, but it sure opened my eyes.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35490 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:15 am to
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I work for a top 10, I haven't seen the year end numbers yet but last I checked only one or 2 in the top 10 had a combined ratio under 100, meaning only 1 or 2 companies were profitable. Our commercial lines were, that's it.




Because they took losses on investments. They don't take premiums and keep them in a safety deposit box. Years with major hurricanes or wildfires not withstanding, insurance companies don't lose money. They play a shell game with it
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