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Shell backs BP in fight over Venture Global LNG exports

Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:03 pm
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HOUSTON, Jan 3 (Reuters) - Shell PLC (SHEL.L) has joined BP PLC (BP.L) in its battle against Venture Global LNG, accusing the liquefied natural gas (LNG) producer of denying it and other customers access to supplies while exporting more than $18 billion worth of the superchilled gas, according to a filing with U.S. regulators.

Venture Global's Calcasieu Pass export facility has been producing and selling LNG for more than 20 months while telling Shell, BP and others it cannot provide them with term-contract cargoes while the plant is undergoing a commissioning phase. The customers have complained that this lack of access has cost them billions of dollars in lost sales.

Shell filed a letter on Tuesday to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) in support of BP. The letter called on the U.S. regulator to force Venture Global LNG to release plant commissioning data to determine why commercial operations are stalled.

The two energy giants are among a group that includes Edison SpA (EDNn.MI), Polish state energy firm Orlen and Spain's Repsol (REP.MC) that have filed contract arbitration claims on the lack of LNG cargoes provided under their contracts.

"Venture Global's unprecedented and inexplicable process for purported commissioning that has so far been shielded from public view fails to follow Commission regulations regarding requests for privileged treatment of documents," Shell said.

The letter reflects both the weak legal position that the two energy giants hold, a Venture Global LNG spokesperson said, and their efforts to pull regulators in the U.S. and Europe in a contract dispute.

"This unseemly behavior reflects BP and Shell’s increasing lack of confidence in their contractual positions, and their complete disrespect for the U.S. regulatory process," said spokesperson Shaylyn Hynes.

Shell wants an order for blanket disclosure of privileged documents, or an acceptable level of unilateral redaction of documents, the FERC filing shows.

Venture Global LNG has become a major U.S. exporter of the superchilled gas since it started processing at its Calcasieu Pass, Louisiana, plant early in 2022. It has sold more than 200 cargoes of the gas under its own accounts without supplying BP and other long-term contract customers.



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Any of you baws familiar enough with these downstream takeaway contracts to shed any insight into the possible accusations and what Venture Global might be doing that’s alleged wrong? Even if just generalities of how this stuff works.
Posted by StrikeIndicator
inside the capital city loop.
Member since May 2019
448 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:13 pm to
Chinese mentality by LNGS….Blatant in your face FU…
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13003 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:14 pm to
I'd bet VG is paying off regulators/politicians to try to use this [flimsy] out of being commissioned. Regulators stopped commissioning at the point where they could do 3rd party exports.

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Shaylyn Hynes
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Posted by skeetandtrap
Houston
Member since Nov 2011
105 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:14 pm to
Not “commissioning” their trains so they don’t have to sell at long term contract prices but instead selling on the spot market where they could fetch way higher prices. Especially last year when Europe was paying high prices due to the Russia Ukraine war.
Posted by Pledge
Professional Baw
Member since Sep 2015
1120 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:22 pm to
No idea what any of this stuff means, but I was at a Honeywell facility in Houston and Venture Global had a shite ton of hardware that they were testing. Talked with some of the Honeywell guys about it and said that it’s weird dealing with them bc they don’t act like the typical plant/refinery/pipeline baws, they act more like Wall Street guys, whatever that means.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21379 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:36 pm to
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Talked with some of the Honeywell guys about it and said that it’s weird dealing with them bc they don’t act like the typical plant/refinery/pipeline baws, they act more like Wall Street guys, whatever that means.


Interesting…

Buddy of mine works for the engineering firm that constructed the VG facility, but his company has since moved on to the next major project, quite some time ago.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Coke Man
Member since Nov 2023
21 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:42 pm to
The corporate guys are like Wall Street guys? Cause I can tell ya most the guys in Belle Chasse are ex P66 Alliance guys.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6759 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:49 pm to
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Not “commissioning” their trains so they don’t have to sell at long term contract prices but instead selling on the spot market where they could fetch way higher prices. Especially last year when Europe was paying high prices due to the Russia Ukraine war.

yep, this is it.

they don't wanna sell at the prices they locked in contracts for because they can get a lot more at current prices.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29641 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:58 pm to
VGLNG is sticking it to the big boys, but it will only last so long and they will go down in flames if they don’t acquiesce to their demands

But right now they are swimming in cash

I work in the LNG business I am the only people who, like what’s going on are the employees of venture global LNG

Golden Pass LNG and next decade LNG are next in line for their commissioning of new facilities exporting LNG cargos, Texas LNG to follow

This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 8:55 pm
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