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re: Mike DeWine vetoes ban on transition-related care for minors and boys on girls teams
Posted on 12/29/23 at 2:28 pm to BobBoucher
Posted on 12/29/23 at 2:28 pm to BobBoucher
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When morality impacts other people (society) - yes.
It doesn’t impact me if sally wants to become Sam.
Well, I'm not a libertarian, so this is nonsense and ignores the reality of U.S. law as libertarians constantly do when it offends their lefty friends.
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:10 pm to Ribbed
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so this is nonsense and ignores the reality of U.S. law
Most laws exist because the crime harms an unwilling party.
If the act is not seen as harmful, and they are willing, there is no victim. There are obvious exceptions of course.
Other than us thinking “well that’s just not right.” That’s our morality we’re attempting to impose on them.
This is exactly how progressives operate. They want you to adopt their moral code - which happens to be very low.
Maybe there is such as thing as progressive conservatives. Conservatives who wish to have everyone adopt their moral code.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:11 pm to stout
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Ohio would be saying that the state, that the government knows better what is medically best for a child,' DeWine said
Yeah becuase states have never told you what to do with your childrens' health.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:13 pm to BobBoucher
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Most laws exist because the crime harms an unwilling party.
Or the government's ability to monitor.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:17 pm to stout
But muh Conservatives!!
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:18 pm to SDVTiger
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But muh Conservatives!!
No one with a clue thinks Dewine is conservative.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:31 pm to Ribbed
Yeah no shite. There are no conservatives left and if there are all they do is lose
So not sure why the clownshow always talks about muh conservatives as if it means anything
So not sure why the clownshow always talks about muh conservatives as if it means anything
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:34 pm to BobBoucher
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Most laws exist because the crime harms an unwilling party.
This ban on transgender care would be one.
Did you know that almost every male who is put on puberty blockers before reaching adolescence will never have an orgasm? Is a pre-adolescent child able to consent? Is destroying a child’s sex life before they reach their teen years harmful?
Keep sticking your head in the sand and pretending you’re being principled. You’re not. You’re a scared pussy.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:37 pm to the808bass
Kristie Noem, Asa Hutchinson and now Devine all resfused rl sign these bills. All Governors of majority Red states. All take a shitload of money from Big Pharma.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:48 pm to SingleMalt1973
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All take a shitload of money from Big Pharma.
Noem has to do whatever T. Denny Sanford tells her to do.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:39 pm to BobBoucher
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Should we legislate morality? I say probably not. It’s a slippery slope. Let idiots be idiots (within reason) as long as it doesn’t impact others.
I guess all suicide laws should be scratched.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:56 pm to BobBoucher
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Most laws exist because the crime harms an unwilling party.
If the act is not seen as harmful, and they are willing, there is no victim. There are obvious exceptions of course.
Statutory rape is a huge example, because a child is not seen as able to make good decisions in that area. They do not understand the long term issues nor can they control their hormones, nor do they have the ability to stop the adult from preying on them.
This sits right next to adults playing God with a child's gender and such. For all the same reasons the child cannot make a good choice nor can they stop the adult from doing something.
Sick fricks.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:56 pm to stout
How about a ban on transgenders
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:40 pm to stout
What a fricking spineless shitheel.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:41 pm to the808bass
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Is a pre-adolescent child able to consent?
Family agrees. Medical profession agrees. Let it happen. They have to live with the consequences. That’s life. FAFO.
Once the lawsuits start coming in the pendulum will swing. Doctors will abandon them. It will self correct. Always does.
That needs to happen to put an end to it permanently. Otherwise the left will fight for it and we’re phobic.
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Keep sticking your head in the sand and pretending you’re being principled. You’re not. .
We’ll that’s like….. your opinion, man.
I happen to think government shouldn’t legislate morality and interfere in family business. You think there are victims that need government protection. The family and doctor disagree.
Following that logic - we need government protection from fake news so we aren’t victims of it.
Legislating morality is dangerous - it’s different to everyone - and should be avoided except in extreme circumstances.
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You’re a scared pussy.
No need to get personal. We can disagree.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:45 pm to tadman
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Statutory rape is a huge example, because a child is not seen as able to make good decisions in that area
That’s a bit different IMO. I don’t know of many situations where an entire family supports statutory rape and a doctor agrees it’s ok.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:53 pm to BobBoucher
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I happen to think government shouldn’t legislate morality
All laws are legislating morality. This is a meaningless talking point.
You don’t agree that children should be protected from predatory doctors and either misled or predatory parents. I agree. You don’t have any special force behind your argument.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:59 pm to oogabooga68
“Boys becoming pregnant” has nothing to do with gender dysphoria
Or transgender, for that matter.
The state should stay the frick out of
a family’s medical consultations with their doctor. How much power do you want to give a state?
Or transgender, for that matter.
The state should stay the frick out of
a family’s medical consultations with their doctor. How much power do you want to give a state?
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:01 pm to the808bass
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All laws are legislating morality. This is a meaningless talking point.
The difference is if there’s a victim. Legislating morality without a clear victim is a problem.
That’s not just a talking point. It’s potentially a legit over reach of government.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:03 pm to VOR
So if a doctor and some moon bat parents in Ohio decide to affirm a little girls’ body dysmorphia and give her lap band surgery and radical plastic surgery, that’s OK with you too?
Because the only difference is leftist politicians choosing one dysmorphic disorder as a wedge.
Because the only difference is leftist politicians choosing one dysmorphic disorder as a wedge.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 8:06 pm
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